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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Is it necessary to replace the '97-2001 drive shaft when significant power upgrades are made or is it strong enough as is?
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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You mean 97 to 2000. 2001+ was the upgraded part..

The rubber bushings are definitely the weak link in this chain.. If you have an older car and start making big HP, sooner or later you are going to shred the stock rubber bushings.

I've never heard the smaller shaft diameter of the older units being a problem.

There are solid replacement parts for this, and a few tuners have come up with improved rubber bushings.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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Carbon fiber driveshaft = BIG $$$$$
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Old May 29, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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It's my understand that all c5's except the Z06 have a composite drive shaft which is lighter than the steel one in the Z06. If the composite one is strong enough for a stock Z06, could it be installed as a weight reduction step?
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Old May 29, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GRRRRR8!
It's my understand that all c5's except the Z06 have a composite drive shaft which is lighter than the steel one in the Z06. If the composite one is strong enough for a stock Z06, could it be installed as a weight reduction step?
I believe ALL of the stock GM prop shafts were made of aluminum and they are actually quite light considering the abuse they have seen behind some high HP engine combo's. I might be wrong, but I believe the main difference in the later model shafts is simply the fact they use 12 mm bolts in place of the 10 mm bolt in the older design (at the front and rear mounting points). dont think the actual shafts are any different nor are they made of a different material. The main benefit of the composite CF designs is that they are more rigid under extreme loads and won't flex. The weight difference is almost nil.

Unless your planning on making well over 500 RWHP, I wouldn't worry about it too much and use that coin towards other go fast goodies until you get to that type of power level. Then I think the move to the CF unit, while not mandatory, starts to make a little more sense.

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Old May 29, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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Tony M. is right, The problem with the drive shaft is whipping from a lot of power being applied at high shaft speeds causing the shaft to diverge from a straight line. This flexing causes an imbalance which stresses the rubber isolator bushings sometimes to failure. GM has a rubber ring bumper in the torque tube to try to limit the shaft flex. The stock aluminum shaft and hardware can handle the torque from a pumped engine but not the off axis loads from a flex induced inbalance.
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I still have not seen a rubber bushing failure on a 01 and newer C5. I did a poll on it and not 1 person reported from the upgraded design.

I believe the 01 and newer C5s also have an upgraded rubber bushings.

My 01 Z06 has over 60k miles and 25+ trackdays. I took the TT apart and found the 2 rear bearings where shot. The rubber bushings where fine with no cracks at all. There was no evidence of "whipping" as the inside of the TT had no wear marks at all from the center disc.

A local friend with the same car and 10k less miles found the same condition as mine.
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