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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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I've had this problem ever since I purchased this thing new.

When shifting my 6 speed in the zone where the cags is suppose to guide you from 1st gear to 4th gear, my gear lever get stuck between 1st and 2nd.

This is hard to explain on paper but let me try.

There I am at a stop light about to take off slowly for what ever reason and I go to shift into second gear "not thinking" that cags is about to prevent me from doing this and thereby "supposedly" guide me into 4th gear instead. What happens next is that as my hand quiclkly brings the shift lever straight back (again not thinking)to engage 2nd and passing the netraul point between 1st & 2nd, the gear lever gets stuck at that point. I can't go anywhere with the shift lever anymore until I bump the shift lever forward with the palm of my hand to get it unstuck. AT that point I can either go back to 1st or carefully shift into 4th if I want to.

As I said before, this car has had this problem ever since new. The dealer had removed the transmission and after not finding any metal chips/shavings, bad gears and advise from GM tech they just apperently made some minor adjustments ( I can't remember what adjustments) and closed up and reinstalled the transmission.

This did not fix the problem and I told them I would be back for them to remedy this at a later date. What I did next from advise from the mechanic who worked on my tranny is to install the cags defeat devise and not have to worry about it ever again. Well I did that and the transmission has worked great, but then again the only thing that was really wrong with it was the cags portion. Since the cags defeat takes the cags out of the picture my tranny has worked great.

Two other friends that have the 6 speed say that they have no problems with the cags portion of their tranny. That their shift levers flow nicely into 4th from 1st even when their not thnking about it and try to inadvertenly shift into 2nd.

Now that my warranty is about to expire should I have the dealer tear up my car again and try to fix this thing or should I just let it go and continue to use my tranny with its 'cags' disabled.

Has anyone had this stuck lever problem. Shoud the dealer try to mess with it again? I kind of have my doub't about their ability to fix it.

Anyone with any good advise?

Matt

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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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CAGS caused mine to hang up too. It lasted 1 day before I installed the eliminator. Problem solved for $15.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by t56gen3
CAGS caused mine to hang up too. It lasted 1 day before I installed the eliminator. Problem solved for $15.
Mine did the same thing...I felt it somewhat dangerous as when you
really needed to shift, there was a delay caused by this cags.

I did the bypass and all is well.

...George
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Default tahnks guys for the replies

Thanks for the replies guys but I am not refering to the delay caused by finding fourth gear as a result of cags balking your attempt into shifting into 2nd. My lever gets "stuck" and I have to phisically "bump" it out of this condition. I can not just simply place it out of this unstuck condition, I have to knock it out with the back of my palm.

This can't be normal as my dealer agreed during the test drive when I was showing them what this thing was doing.

What do you guys think?

I apreciate all comentss

Matt

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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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I think you misunderstood me. Mine did the same thing: shifter hangs up and you have to jack with it to get it free and in to any gear. Get a CAGS bypass. Who needs a computer to tell them how and when to shift a manual trannied car anyways!!
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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I think you misunderstood me. Mine did the same thing: shifter hangs up and you have to jack with it to get it free and in to any gear. Get a CAGS bypass. Who needs a computer to tell them how and when to shift a manual trannied car anyways!!

I do have the cags defeat and the tranny works great in this condition. I agree, who needs a computer telling me when to shift.

...and this is what I need to hear from folks, that this is a comon problem and that maybe it's just not worth going to grat lengths to try and fix.

...then again maybe it's worth having the dealer atempt one last fix, but if it doesn't get any better then just keep the cags defeat installed in the car forever.

What do you guys think?

Matt

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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Boeingman
I do have the cags defeat and the tranny works great in this condition. I agree, who needs a computer telling me when to shift.

Matt
OK I'm confused, you have the CAGS bypass and are still having the issue? Or you want to be sure that nothing's wrong with the tranny before the warranty expires based on previous issues with the CAGS?

I think whatever moves in the tranny to supposedly "guide" your shifts doesn't make for a smooth gear change....and with an already notchy tranny it's easy to hang up. It's also very annoying.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by t56gen3
OK I'm confused, you have the CAGS bypass and are still having the issue? Or you want to be sure that nothing's wrong with the tranny before the warranty expires based on previous issues with the CAGS?

I think whatever moves in the tranny to supposedly "guide" your shifts doesn't make for a smooth gear change....and with an already notchy tranny it's easy to hang up. It's also very annoying.

-The problem does not exist with the cags bypass.
-Yes, I do want to be sure nothing is wrong with the tranny based on previous issues when cags bypass was "not" installed and before the warranty expires.

Thanks for your advise
Matt
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If your car is STILL in the warranty period, have the dealer fix it correctly!!! If you have some sort of mechanical damage, drive line stuff is EXPENSIVE and TIME CONSUMING to repair on your own!!

The shift linkage rod may be out of adjustment!! That is what theu should look at FIRST!! Make sure that the netural pin can be inserted when your in netural. Get them to readjust the linkage. It takes an hour!

Here is a picture of the shifter box and the pin.










Have you ever lubricated your shift box??

Please let us know how you make out!

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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no I've never lubricated anything to do with the linkage.

Since there hasn't been a flurry of people saying that they have this same problem also, I can assume this problem is defitnatly not comon and most likely something that requires fixing. Therefore, I think I will have dealer attempt one last fix. If at that point they can't fix it, I'll just run the cags bypass forever and not worry about it again.

Thanks
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