Questions on Headers...
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Questions on Headers...
I'm new so don't laugh at me. But I have heard a lot about headers. Can someone explain to me what they are, how they effect your cars performance and sound, who makes the better brands and what kind of dough do they cost. Also, is this a hard job to install or what? Do you need to install something else along with them or do you just add them alone and there you go?
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Well basically headers allow for more exhuast flow and in turn more horsepower. get longtubes vice shorty headers. if you get an offraod x-pipe, which means no cats, you can still pass emmissions in most states with o2 simulators and a good tune which you should get anyway once you put on the headers. LG makes the best, i'm puttin them on my Z in Jan. Kooks and hooker long tubes are pretty good too. Good luck.
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Ok, I already have put on a set of Corsa Exhaust mufflers and tips. What do I do to this set up, add an X pipe then long headers ?? Sorry I'm still a little confused. And how much would the LG brand cost?(what does LG stand for) 
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LG makes the best
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Originally Posted by thug29
Ok, I already have put on a set of Corsa Exhaust mufflers and tips. What do I do to this set up, add an X pipe then long headers ?? Sorry I'm still a little confused. And how much would the LG brand cost?(what does LG stand for)
Here is a link to LGM
http://www.lgmotorsports.com/
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There are lots of opinions about which headers are best...just like which ice cream is best. You need to do your own research, but bacisally there are about 5 or 6 good choices. You should get long tubes, not shorties. You will get meaningfullly more power, more and better sound, maybe not as good mileage. In my case, that's because I like to make pipe music.
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I have had on my car at one time or another: Lg's (just installed), Kooks, TPIS, Breathless. I don't dyno so I have no numbers for you. From the performance standpoint I can tell you the Breathless were junk from the minute they were installed. Between the LG's, Kooks, and TPIS I can tell no seat of the pants difference. 
From the installation point of view: Hands down easiest is the LG's, then TPIS, then Kooks, then Breathless. From the quality standpoint: Kooks, LG's, TPIS, Breathless. From the looks standpoint LG's, KOOKS, TPIS, Breathless. Please keep in mind that the LG's and the Kooks are stainless, which is much better from the start than the mild steel used in the Breathless and TPIS systems. These are simply my opinions of the products I have used in my personal C5, nothing more. I have not tried any of the other systems out there so I cannot tell you about them. Of the products that I have tested I can recommend both the LG's and the KOOKS quality pieces. Again just my opinion.
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From the installation point of view: Hands down easiest is the LG's, then TPIS, then Kooks, then Breathless. From the quality standpoint: Kooks, LG's, TPIS, Breathless. From the looks standpoint LG's, KOOKS, TPIS, Breathless. Please keep in mind that the LG's and the Kooks are stainless, which is much better from the start than the mild steel used in the Breathless and TPIS systems. These are simply my opinions of the products I have used in my personal C5, nothing more. I have not tried any of the other systems out there so I cannot tell you about them. Of the products that I have tested I can recommend both the LG's and the KOOKS quality pieces. Again just my opinion.Bob
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I just installed Lg's last week and I'll tell you the sound at WOT is incredible. I haven't had a dyno yet to see how much hp I got but the sound alone is worth it. If I knew they would make the car sound this good I would have gotten them sooner.
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Thanks guys for your input, but lets keep the fire burning.
1.Nobody has given me a figure for the cost of these headers...
2.Someone (Mike04) said I should get "high flow cats" w/the headers...(what are cats please) and why.
3. Does the addition of these headers make the interior sound too loud?
To be honest my interior is loud as it is with the Corsa system only.
Again, thanks for your advice and help I do appreciate it.
1.Nobody has given me a figure for the cost of these headers...
2.Someone (Mike04) said I should get "high flow cats" w/the headers...(what are cats please) and why.
3. Does the addition of these headers make the interior sound too loud?
To be honest my interior is loud as it is with the Corsa system only.
Again, thanks for your advice and help I do appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by thug29
Thanks guys for your input, but lets keep the fire burning.
1.Nobody has given me a figure for the cost of these headers...
2.Someone (Mike04) said I should get "high flow cats" w/the headers...(what are cats please) and why.
3. Does the addition of these headers make the interior sound too loud?
To be honest my interior is loud as it is with the Corsa system only.
Again, thanks for your advice and help I do appreciate it.
1.Nobody has given me a figure for the cost of these headers...
2.Someone (Mike04) said I should get "high flow cats" w/the headers...(what are cats please) and why.
3. Does the addition of these headers make the interior sound too loud?
To be honest my interior is loud as it is with the Corsa system only.
Again, thanks for your advice and help I do appreciate it.
http://www.lgmotorsports.com/shop/pr...bd727ce796af1a
With the KOOKS system a couple hundred dollars cheaper.
http://www.kookscustomheaders.com/
Everything else I believe is priced cheaper than those above.
2) Cats are your catalytic converters which are there for your emission system.
3) Yes your cars volume will rise slightly
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Great, Thanks for your help. The cats, do they come with the headers or are they something I have to buy/order seperate?
And if so , who makes those and are they like everything else I'm reading about here ...numerous brands and styles with as many favorites between members???
And if so , who makes those and are they like everything else I'm reading about here ...numerous brands and styles with as many favorites between members???
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St. Jude Donor '07-'12, '20
Originally Posted by thug29
Great, Thanks for your help. The cats, do they come with the headers or are they something I have to buy/order seperate?
And if so , who makes those and are they like everything else I'm reading about here ...numerous brands and styles with as many favorites between members???
And if so , who makes those and are they like everything else I'm reading about here ...numerous brands and styles with as many favorites between members???
You must ask for them. 
As previously posted there are many different brands of headers out there. You need to decide exactly what type of performance you want from your car, then you would be able to narrow the field. I would suggest a stainless longtube system over shorties with mild steel.
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so to throw another opinion out there.
I would not do headers if I was not looking at a future H/C package unless you are looking for deeper sound out of your pipes. I would instead do gears. Gears will give you more acceleration than headers will.
Saying that you can look at my sig. I did not do headers until I decided to add the H/C package. Once I made that decision I knew the stock headers would not be good enough. The sound is really loud on WOT and yesterday in the city I got a ton of great comments (plus I set off about 3 car alarms in a 100 foor area when I hit it). I love it but something to think about.
BTW - I have kooks with high flow cats and GHLS....
I would not do headers if I was not looking at a future H/C package unless you are looking for deeper sound out of your pipes. I would instead do gears. Gears will give you more acceleration than headers will.
Saying that you can look at my sig. I did not do headers until I decided to add the H/C package. Once I made that decision I knew the stock headers would not be good enough. The sound is really loud on WOT and yesterday in the city I got a ton of great comments (plus I set off about 3 car alarms in a 100 foor area when I hit it). I love it but something to think about.
BTW - I have kooks with high flow cats and GHLS....
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Thanks George for your assistance.
Weasel, can you de-code some of the abrv. you left for me please?
What do the following mean;
1.H/C package?
2.WOT?
3.GHLS ?
Sorry to be out of the loop but I'm new and just learning the lingo.
Weasel, can you de-code some of the abrv. you left for me please?
What do the following mean;
1.H/C package?
2.WOT?
3.GHLS ?
Sorry to be out of the loop but I'm new and just learning the lingo.
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St. Jude Donor '07-'12, '20
Originally Posted by thug29
Thanks George for your assistance.
Weasel, can you de-code some of the abrv. you left for me please?
What do the following mean;
1.H/C package?
2.WOT?
3.GHLS ?
Sorry to be out of the loop but I'm new and just learning the lingo.
Weasel, can you de-code some of the abrv. you left for me please?
What do the following mean;
1.H/C package?
2.WOT?
3.GHLS ?
Sorry to be out of the loop but I'm new and just learning the lingo.
2. Wide Open Throttle
3. Aftermarket muffler sysytem
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Originally Posted by thug29
Oh brother...when you spell it out like that I really do feel like a jackass 
We have all been there.