Three LS7 crate engines!!
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St. Jude Donor '06
Originally Posted by Bink
What has JOHN been smoking??? 
The C5R block..........BARE block is $6250.
We're not talking a shortblock. Shortblocks have rotating assemblies within - crank, bearings, rods, pistons, pins, rings, timing gear (usually), cam etc.
Personally I would not choke it with a set of LS6 heads when far better flowing heads are available.
Yes, some of us have read associated threads on LS1Tech.
The C5R block..........BARE block is $6250.
We're not talking a shortblock. Shortblocks have rotating assemblies within - crank, bearings, rods, pistons, pins, rings, timing gear (usually), cam etc.
Personally I would not choke it with a set of LS6 heads when far better flowing heads are available.
Yes, some of us have read associated threads on LS1Tech.
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St. Jude Donor '15
I can't say that I understand the hype of the LS7 engine. For $14K you can easily build an LS1 to make more power and be just as reliable and streetable...and not have to deal with any of the PCM issues
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Originally Posted by lost
What have you been smoking? $6400 for the C5R shortblock,CNC ported LS6 heads,[$1195 from Patriot] and Jet-hots long tubes[tpis] for $600, and the cam of your choice $250-$400, and you you have $5000 left over for tires .wheels,rockers and whatever.The new LS7 is not the end all of all engines, and with the # of problems they are having with valve springs etc.The C5R might well be the better choice.you get the crate LS7 and you have to disassemble it to change the reluctor, not to mention the dry sump system that is not included in crate engine or other little goodies that include no doubt the unavailability of main bolts, as once you remove the crank the old bolts cant be reused...Did anyone bother to read the entire link to ls1tech above?
You left off the crank, titanium rods, manifolds, and ton of other parts. Quotes I get for a 427 is 25-30,000
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Originally Posted by John Shiels
You left off the crank, titanium rods, manifolds, and ton of other parts. Quotes I get for a 427 is 25-30,000
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Originally Posted by SilverBulletZ06
What about starting with an LS7 block and going from there? You'd get the big bores but without the C5R pricetag.
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Originally Posted by John Shiels
Your still piecing a motor together with all after market part and it gets real expensive for good parts. Try to buy some ti rods, heads, manifolds, pistons, pans, oil pumps, and a ton of other things. Who wants an Eagle crank from China not me. Headers. cam, and a tune and you near 600 HP or more. Every thing is already balanced you just need to disassemble and reassemble.
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St. Jude Donor '15
Originally Posted by John Shiels
You left off the crank, titanium rods, manifolds, and ton of other parts. Quotes I get for a 427 is 25-30,000
none of that pushes the price tag to $30K, you might want to make some more phone calls and or price things out for yourself.
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St. Jude Donor '15
Originally Posted by SilverBulletZ06
Reluctor crank is a bit out of my tech know-how. I assume it goes to some sensor. Why not regear the sensor to read like the LS1/LS6?
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here is a pic of the old vs new reluctor wheel http://filebox.vt.edu/users/mkoch/reluctor2.JPG
here is also the old vs new cam gear
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/mkoch/camgears.JPG
here is also the old vs new cam gear
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/mkoch/camgears.JPG
