Well I thought I would share my whole experience with everyone here on the forum and to give some insight on the famous LG pro long tube headers. Car is a 2000 MN6 coupe. Shipping from LG was very fast, but GM exhaust manifold gaskets did not show up that I orderd. Called them and they were very nice and sent a set out, recieved them in about a week. Took car into MSI in Roseville CA, to have them installed on Tuesday. Told it was going to be a one day job, but we ran into some problems.

LG pro long tubes, high flow cats, x pipe, 30lb SVO injectors, new spark plugs, callaway spark plug wires, and some other misc. stuff was on the agenda to be installed. Well the injectors were too rich so we had to wait until Wed. for the tuner to come in with HP tuners to do his magic and get my car running again. Well when he hooked up HP Tuners to my car he noticed the right side of the exhaust(O2 sensor was not reading at all. So spent hours and hours trying to figure out what is wrong, finally checked the supplied O2 wire extensions from LG and they crossed the wires wrong given the reason there was no reading on the right side. I was charged an additional 1 hour charge of labor to figure this problem out. Hopefully LG reads this and can give me a store credit or someting, if not I will be calling them anyways.

Fixed the problem thursday, and went out with the tuner for a test drive with HP Tuners. This guy did an awesome job, took his time, and was very intelligent with HP Tuners. Car feels awesome, major low end torque increase and across the entire rpm band, I am happy with the results. No I dont have any dyno numbers or track numbers to show, but I will soon.

I am running B&B Bullets with this system and it is just way too loud. I live in CA and I know Im going to get pinched real soon. Sound is great, but if you get on it, everyone can hear from blocks away.

Let me know if you have any questions.

 

i run the same set-up.i think it sounds awesome[could be a little louder].i'm suprised you had a problem with the extensions.call lou.he's a stand up guy.FWIW,30lbs injectors on a n/a stock car is a overkill,JMO

 

You lost me. Is this a good post for a parts supplier and or your tuner? Is this a bad post because a gasket was not shipped and a wire was switched and you don't want to make a call? Are you angry at your tuner because they could not start the car due to a injector change? Is everything the fault of the headers? Can you clarify what your telling us? Thanks
Bob

 

Good point!! This isn't so much a header post, as it's an "entire mod experience" post. Just for the point of clarification, WHO didn't ship the gaskets? The injectors by themselves probably weren't "rich", but maybe incorrectly sized for the programming of the car, in a stock condition.

Of course tuning would be required to get the package right, but that isn't anyone's "fault", rather it's a consequence of modifying your car. Remember the old days, install headers, "fatten" the carb?? (as well as bump the timing, and quicken the curve...)

 

Guys relax, Im not pointing fingers, Im not angry, a little frustrated at the time but thats it. I am giving my experience on the whole situation. Thier were good things and bad things. I am going to make the call to LG, MSI already did. People should know though how customers are treated with certain companys. I understad that s#$t can happen, but its all about quality control and I was a little upset that Lg did not send me gaskets and then cross the wires wrong on the supplied O2 sensor extension. Thats it, but Im over it. It is not my goal to slam any company here. I Love the gain, the quality and customer service of LG Motorsports. Ok now that thats out of the way, the comment about the injectors being too big just for long tubes, your right, but your also wrong. At Max duty cycle I hit 78%, so I stayed under 80% which is what I wanted and I recieved an aggressive tune with plenty of fuel delievery. Is it neccesary, no, but my H/C package is going in soon so SVOs were put in now and tuned.

 

I just called LG and it is all good. They are going to take care of me. Apparently they do not make the wire extensions another company supplies them for thier customers.

 

I still don't follow, are you a happy customer of any of these suppliers or tuners? Or are you unhappy? I see your title is LG headers. You did not get a gasket, if YOU ORDERED IT they should have shipped it, if not stuff happens and I think I read somewhere that you got it anyway. Did you order and or pay for that gasket? Bad electrical part, that happens its electrical. Injectors made your car rich, which made the tuner keep the car an extra day. Were the injectors the rich problem? Were the injectors replaced? By who? Why did it take an extra day for a tune? Did the tuner have to bring in someone? Did they need to get special equipment? I'm not breaking your chops, just want to figure out what you are trying to say.

 

Every now and then I will see some vendor bashing get started and certainly any one could have a problem. The test of a quality shop is what they do about it when you call.

A better test is what do they do when it is somebody elses fault - lets say like another tuner or vendor product. Stay with me here.

I recently completed a number of mods and had the car dynoed. The results were crap and needless to say I was pretty discouraged. Posted a few threads looking for advice - no help.

Then I get a response from this guy named Lou - you all know who I'm talking about. He invites me to bring the car down to his shop and let his guys look at it and work on the tune. I ask how much is that going to cost and he says don't worry about it I will give you a deal. And he did!

When I get there, everyone is real nice, they get my car on the dyno and start to work. Lou is no where around. I asked them what this is going to cost and they give me the company rate which is much more than Lou quoted over the phone. Now I'm getting worried here comes the old "bait and switch." When I told them what I was quoted they said "well if that is what Lou said, that is what it will be."

32+ more horsepower later and other problems solved my car runs awesome.

And everyone there thinks corvettes are the coolest and they make you feel pretty cool for owning one.

Now why do you think Lou Gigliotti did that? I guess because the guy loves corvettes and all Genertion III powered vehicles and wants everyone to enjoy them like he does. Or maybe he is just a real good guy and straight shooter - who knows.

He didn't have to give me a deal on the tune - I never bought a thing from him. But he's got a new customer now. I guess I just answered my question.

LG Motorsports is a first rate outfit and excellent vendor.

I suggest that any situation should be taken to its conclusion before the gossip mill starts churning.

 

Estreeter, i'm going to make a seperate post so as not to hijack this one. The reason for my questions are just to clarify that the originator of the thread is not blaming his headers for the work delay's associated with his car.

 

Hey man - no problem. I know where your coming from. I was responding to the original thread. We're