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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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i desperately need a little insight on what you guys think about my problem... im OF COURSE getting the "reduced engine power" message and is doing it all the time, i cant even drive the car

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b2283
2285
2282
2284

u1064
1096

pp1517
1516

the b's = battery voltage out of range
the U's = lost communication with XXX
the p's= trottle control module actuator position performance
the c's = tcs enabled by pcm and wheel speed sensor circuit
and b2723h = pass - key detection circuit....
1515
1120
1220
1221
1626

c1278
1226

b2723


what do you guys think about this delima, and has anyone see so many freakin codes thrown... i have searched for days and was wanting a little advice... please help

ps... car is 97 m6 coupe

thanx

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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Now that you have them written down. Reset them and see which ones come back. Also let us know if they have a H or C or both after them
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Something similar happened to me. Check both ends of the battery cable for proper connectivity. I had an intermittant connection to the starter from the battery and it went code crazy (of course). Felt like I was riding a bull...bucked like mad!
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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Loose battery cable caused the same symptoms for me also.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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hey guys... all of the codes are coded H except for two codes that i cant find the meaning of... C2100 H C ,,,, C2105 H C.... i cant figure this out... battery is about 1 year old and is a red top optima... any more suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated...

thanx!

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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dazman
hey guys... all of the codes are coded H except for two codes that i cant find the meaning of... C2100 H C ,,,, C2105 H C.... i cant figure this out... battery is about 1 year old and is a red top optima... any more suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated...

thanx!

michael
The code C2100 is Left Front Tire Pressure Monitoring Sensor Malfunction. C2105 Right Front TPM Mal function. Procedures are sited in Service Manual 103 Pages 3-119 thru 3-123
I hope this helps. Also I believe that PCM is not communcating with any of the BCM. It is required to have comm every 5 sec. Have some one with a Tach II check you PCM connection and you should try to clean connectors and clear codes and try again. But remember it will get worse before it get better. Also remember that if it is your PCM and you have less than 88K its covered by warranty read your owner manual.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dazman
hey guys... all of the codes are coded H except for two codes that i cant find the meaning of... C2100 H C ,,,, C2105 H C.... i cant figure this out... battery is about 1 year old and is a red top optima... any more suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated...

thanx!

michael
C2100 should be just to reprogram your tire sensors. Do a search to find out how to do it. Very easy.

C2105 I would reset all the codes and see if this comes back. I would pull the plugs on your PCM and also BCM. Your BCM may have failed and this would make your dash light up like a Christmas tree. The dealer will ream the crap out of you to replace it. If you take it in to the dealer maybe just have them diagnose it and then say thanks and buy the parts from Carshop.

I would do what JR said scrape all the connectors and check the battery cable. Hope you get it figured out
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 07:01 AM
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I may be having same problem. Can someone tell me where the BCM is?
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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I may be having same problem. Can someone tell me where the BCM is?



body control module is located in the passenger side footwell. Right behind that access panel. pops right out.


b2283 is "battery #1 circuit". That said, you either have a door module problem, or a wireing problem. on the passenger side. I have no other discription on this to tell you. If your not haveing problems,...just clear it and see if it comes back

b2285 is Battery #2 ...which looks like the same senerio

b2282 left door module

u1064 is nothing to worry about.

etc etc etc.

I don't think you have any major problems,..as I have seen alot of C5's with alot of codes, ....and still run trouble free.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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IMO you can disregard all of the codes except the P1516 and P1517, the PCM is having a problem seeing the throttle so it's putting you in safe mode, not seeing the car I can't really go any deeper but you either have a problem with the TAC module, throttle position sensor or the wiring between the 2.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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That's good advice from FFR-Z06... The car can carry a lot of codes and still run fine, but anything associated with the fly by wire throttle is a huge liability for GM and they made sure the car would not run unless this system was perfect... Hence the dreaded "reduced engine power" mode. Fix the throttle problem (don't forget to check the throttle peddle switch too) and you will be back in business...
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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could i just not go and buy a new throttle control motor or switch, or a new pedal switch and just be done with it???

and ive always wondered why the hell GM put a fly by wire trottle on the car and is there any way to have a cable put on instead? this just seems to me like GM planned to have multiple f'ups on the car while.

thanx for all the help!!
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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ok, ive just went out to the car to start working on it, and i noticed the fuse box under the pass. foot well, there is a blue and red wire twisted together with 3 fuses in it and it just goes up to the top of the well and connects to nothing.... its just sitting there... i dont know if this is some sort of aftermarket crap that the guy before me had but it is not connected at all to anything... any help?????
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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Can't help you with the blue and red twisted wire, but someone sent me to this thread:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/sho...6875&forum_id=1


I was having the same problems as you with all the codes. I just messed with one of these connectors to make it more snug. I only got one code after an hour of hard driving.

I am going to try get the local GM Vette mechanic to clean-up all the connectors for me.

Good luck.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dazman
hey guys... all of the codes are coded H except for two codes that i cant find the meaning of... C2100 H C ,,,, C2105 H C.... i cant figure this out... battery is about 1 year old and is a red top optima... any more suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated...

thanx!

michael
I think you may have missed the point both "cortex" and "lkmaryjane" were making. Though the battery is fairly new, and is a good quality battery, it's the CONNECTIONS that may be the issue, NOT the battery itself. A faulty ground (at the battery or anywhere else) can cause all kinds of goblins. With so many codes, and seemingly unrelated ones, a grounding issue seems likely.

Good luck!
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:24 AM
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1 of your faults is for a malfunctioning tac module[throttle control unit]the other is for the throttle motor activation.the pedal sensors tell the tac unit how far to open the throttle and then the controller opens the blade accordingly.did you suffer from "leaking battery syndrome"? if so,remove the nright front inner fender well close out.after you do,you will see the tac unit and behind that the pcm.look at the harness to make sure it isn't eaten away.if it's ok,unplug the tac unit and see if the connectors or terminals are corroded.BTW,you have already checked the fuse[s] for the tac module,correct?
either you have a blown fuse,bad connection or a tac module that took a dump.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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thanx for the input guys, i really appreciate your expertise... ill see what i can do this weekend... im a very capable person for working on cars ( multiple heads/cam/headers projects ) but i just might have to take this one in for a real mechanic to look at first time ever.


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