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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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I went to the dealer to have my pressure system mon shut off and they said they would not do it because it is a safety item. I am changing my wheels to Z06 with standard tires and do not want to have to remember to hit the reset every time I start the car. Is there a way to shut the system off other than thru the dealer?
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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I went to the dealer to have my pressure system mon shut off and they said they would not do it because it is a safety item. I am changing my wheels to Z06 with standard tires and do not want to have to remember to hit the reset every time I start the car. Is there a way to shut the system off other than thru the dealer?

Do you have some good tire sensors you'd be willing to sell cheap? Sorry to hi jack but seem like a great opportunity.. Pm a price if interested.

as for shutting them off.. I'm sure you can call some tuners... i'm sure they have a way to shut it off... otherwise you might try calling some other dealerships... I'm sure someone will do it but make you fill out a waiver, that says you understand the risk and that you wont' hold them responsible.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MILESTONE#001
I went to the dealer to have my pressure system mon shut off and they said they would not do it because it is a safety item. I am changing my wheels to Z06 with standard tires and do not want to have to remember to hit the reset every time I start the car. Is there a way to shut the system off other than thru the dealer?
you HAD ME VERY CONFUSED THERE WITH YOUR AVATAR....... I thought you had a Z06 and was wondering why you ever turned on the Tire system in the first place..... I see you have both a 97 and a 99... your dealer gave you some wrong information... in both of those years, you can not turn off the Tire pressure monitor, there is no option in the PCM to do so......
secondly, it would be foolish of you to abandon the TPS....
while you will be in need of new sensors, because your old ones are at the end of their life... having them will insure you have a heads up as to a loss of tire pressure... this is critical when you dont have a spare...
when your TPS says your tire is low, you still will have 25 psi in it allowing you to pull over and add some air to say 35 psi and allow you to continue to a safe haven, a tire store , or home... you may have to stop a few times to refill your going flat tire, but it will keep both the tire inflated to a safe number and not destroy the bands or the wheel....
with out the TPS , the only way you will know you have a rolling flat tire is when the car becomes unstable, at this point as you ride the tire down to the ground you will indeed destroy the tire and possible the wheel,, not even considering an out of control situation when the tire is deflated.... most tires today pick up a nail or screw and become a slow leak...rarely does a tire blow out... I have yet to hear of anyone with a C5 who had a true blow out in my five years here.
You want to keep the TPS intact... it could save your life and definitely save you the price of a tire and wheel... should they go flat while driving... a cheap air compressor will get you home...
gene Culley at Fred beans has the best prices for your gen 1 sensors @ 330 dollars delivered...
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by N0TDADYS_98
Do you have some good tire sensors you'd be willing to sell cheap? Sorry to hi jack but seem like a great opportunity.. Pm a price if interested.

as for shutting them off.. I'm sure you can call some tuners... i'm sure they have a way to shut it off... otherwise you might try calling some other dealerships... I'm sure someone will do it but make you fill out a waiver, that says you understand the risk and that you wont' hold them responsible.
what you are sure of is absolutely nothing !!!!!!!!
and you are crazy to try to buy 8 year old sensors...AS I said you need to be asking for advice not giving it..... Gen 1 sensors last 7 to 9 years.
The TPS can not be turned off even by Zora....
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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wow... I thought all systems could be shut off...


$330 is that for 4 sensor or 1?
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by N0TDADYS_98
wow... I thought all systems could be shut off...


$330 is that for 4 sensor or 1?
THats for all four... gen 1 sensors (97-00 ) including shipping ....they list for 119 each

gen 2 sensors are much cheaper @ 175 dollars for 4, but you can not use them in an 97 to 00 car..

Sorry for the irreverance but it's just me....I know you ment well but you could have had that guy running all over town because you were sure..............

So many wanna be helpers and people of good intention, but if it isn't a fact you should not be offering ....too many newbies come here thinking any advice is good advice , after all it came from the Corvette forum....
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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THats for all four... gen 1 sensors (97-00 ) including shipping ....they list for 119 each

gen 2 sensors are much cheaper @ 175 dollars for 4, but you can not use them in an 97 to 00 car..

Sorry for the irreverance but it's just me....I know you ment well but you could have had that guy running all over town because you were sure..............

So many wanna be helpers and people of good intention, but if it isn't a fact you should not be offering ....too many newbies come here thinking any advice is good advice , after all it came from the Corvette forum....

note noted.

is it possible to upgrade my TPS to a 01+ so I could benefit from the cheaper sensors?
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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FWIW, I'm not running with the sensors in my 2000. How big of a PITA can it be to hit reset once upon starting? For me, it's no big deal - takes all of 2 seconds.
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VC, is that all it is, press reset? Or do you need to go into diag mode and clear the error as if it was a trouble code?

And I also would be interested in what it would take to replace the "reciever" so its 2001. My issue is new wheels with mounted tires with 2001 senders and I would prefer not to dismount, re-install my 98 sensors, and remount.

Thanks for the great info.
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bump for an answer.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 03:27 AM
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you do not need to dismount the tire completely to remove or install the tire pressure sensor. The bead of the tire can be pushed in far enough to remove and install the sensor with dismounting the tire.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by N0TDADYS_98
note noted.

is it possible to upgrade my TPS to a 01+ so I could benefit from the cheaper sensors?
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THats for all four... gen 1 sensors (97-00 ) including shipping ....they list for 119 each

gen 2 sensors are much cheaper @ 175 dollars for 4, but you can not use them in an 97 to 00 car..
Sorry for the irreverance but it's just me....I know you ment well but you could have had that guy running all over town because you were sure..............

So many wanna be helpers and people of good intention, but if it isn't a fact you should not be offering ....too many newbies come here thinking any advice is good advice , after all it came from the Corvette forum....
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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You CAN NOT up-grade early Gen1 sensors for the newer Gen2 sensors! It is just not going to work! You would need to change the FOBs, RFA Module and the BCM and then figure out how to make all that new stuff work in your older C5.

As Evil Twin recommended, just get some new sensors and be be done with it.

The Gen 1 & Gen 2 sensors will fit in the Z06 wheels. The theory of being able to turn ON and OFF the TPS option comes from the 2001 and up C5 cars. Z06 cars DO NOT come from the factory with TPS. You can in deed install them in a Z06 and have the option turned ON using the Tech II!
I have TPS in my 02 Z06 and they function like any other C5 TPS monitoring system.
If you have a 2001 and up C5, the option (inside the BCM) can be turned on or off using the GM Tech II. C5 options reside in the BCM. BCM functions CAN NOT be changed altered or programmed using aftermarket tuner software (ie EFI LIVE, HP Tuners LS1 Edit, Predator ect ect! On the other hand, PCM (engine tuning parameters) functions can be altered (tuned) using aftermarket tuning software.

If your running NON RUN FLAT tires, having tire pressure monitoring capability is critical!!!!!!!!!! It could save your life! Low tire pressure on a sports car is very dangerous!

I installed the TPS in my Z06 and 4 months later while on the way to Carlisle on Interstate 287 in RYE NY, the rear tire blew (for no reason at all) My wife got an immediate notification that the "RIGHT REAR TIRE WAS FLAT" and was able to slow down drive to the shoulder of the road without rim damage. Without TPS, I seriously doubt that she would have been able to react to the slight change to the Z06 handling and would have driven on the tire long enough to have it disintegrate and destroy the rim. With a flat rear tire on a C5, you will not feel a significant change in the way a car handles if you traveling straight down the road!

I have pictures of the rim, tire and the TPS installed on the rim. I will post them later tonight once I get out of work.


99FewteRC5 Is correct! You do not need to dismount the tire completely to remove or install the tire pressure sensor. The bead of the tire can be pushed in far enough to remove and install the sensor with dismounting the tire. You will however need to re balance the tire!

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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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Roger that ET, my 2000 coupe still has its factory sensors although one is acting funky,won't register untill it goes a few miles.No big deal I will replace it soon. I changed out my goodyears to Pirelli P Zero a couple of years ago but depend on my DIC to inform us of low pressure. The wife has been using it as her daily driver and she noticed the DIC said a tire was low. Sure enough picked up a nail, we have a 12v small compressor in the car but she did not need to use it. Left nail in untill I got to Tire repair shop. Dismount and patched. I do not understand why anyone would remove the sensors even with non run flats except when changing out the rear tires and wheels at the drag strip for drag radials.
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I would also like to turn that damn thing off. You guys make it sound so dramatic if you dont have it. You have a greater probability of being hit by a drunk driver than crashing because your tire was low!
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sounds like more work than its' worth... just thought i'd ask..
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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Wrong oh Darkness one. Here in Florida it Rains about everyday in the summer. If your Corvette hits a big wet spot with underinflated tires it will Hydroplane due to the tread being deformed by the low air pressure. So the odds are about the same as being hit by a Drunk. (we have a lot of drunk youngsters here during spring break).
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I would also like to turn that damn thing off. You guys make it sound so dramatic if you dont have it. You have a greater probability of being hit by a drunk driver than crashing because your tire was low!
You are so wrongAccording to two of my best friends who are NJ State Police offerers. 15 % of the faitalities on NJ highways are caused by
underinflated tires. This condition becomes extreme in wet weather.
So if being dramatic will help people understand the importance of having a tire monitoring system...You can post your insite to the rest of the idiots who think your way.
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VC, is that all it is, press reset? Or do you need to go into diag mode and clear the error as if it was a trouble code?
Yep. When you first start the car, the DIC will say "service tire pressure system" or something like that. You just hit reset once and the message will stay gone until you turn the car off and back on again. For me, it's just become a habit to hit reset after I start the car. Heck, you hand's right by the reset button anyway after turning the key. It's really not a PITA at all - for me at least. I guess some people get bothered by pushing a button once. And FWIW, I'm running the C6 runflats, so I just keep a good tire guage in the car and check the pressure every so often.
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The TPS can not be turned off even by Zora....
...even by Zora! Never heard that one. Damn, that's funny!
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