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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 01:53 AM
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i installed some B & B shorties wednesday and now my check engine light pops on. there where a couple of sparkplug wires not fully installed in the coils, on but not snapped on right, that caused a miss. i fixed that and have put about 50 + miles on since then. now on the way home tonight the check engine light pops on. the codes i got from the dic are as follows......manual mode is sure easier than the auto to read these and write them down by the way. i got all these codes and descriptions online of the internet so..... they may not be the right descriptions. another thread shows the p0410 as the secondary air system also. the 28 tcs c1255 shows variance in right wheel speed sensor on that other thread so... the light came on on a corner pulling out of a parking lot. could that do the check engine light? the 1096,1064,1016 on the other thread show loss to other control computers. could this simply be from un hooking the battery? the voltage out of range from other thtread show for the left and right door control modules. battery un hook again? this is gonna drive me nuts!!!!!!!!!!!


pcm "p0410 h c"---- secondary air injection code. why what does this mean?

28-tcc "c1255 h"---- ecu malfunction. what does this mean?

a0-ldcm "b2282 h" , "b2284 h" -- both are voltage out of range battery? from disonect?, "u1064 h"--lost communication w/ xxx????

a1-rdcm "b2283 h" , "b2285 h" -- again voltage out of range battery?? i did unhook it to install headers?, "u1064 h"--the lost com. thing again

borfa "u1096 h" , "u1064 h" , "u1016 h"--- all three are the lost communication with XXX. WTF does this mean?? am i supposed to be engaging in some XXX in the vett or the computer gets upset???

those are what i found..i got the code info from online, any of you know what the heck is going on with my baby???? did i mess her up good? seems to run ok. feels like it has a little hesitation to it sometimes. then other times feels like it is running very well. i noticed the miss right away when the wires where not clipped in all the way. it does have a pop now kinda like the decel burble before i had the x pipe installed. i dont know if the headers will do this or not. i cant find a exhaust leak anywhere. could the O2 sensors have been messed up in this install??? any help apprieciated
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 02:26 AM
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I've been getting the 3 "U" codes for loss of comm with PCM, BCM & ICP since I've installed my long tubes last week.

My fob stopped working too.

Sucks...
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 02:46 AM
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I've been getting the 3 "U" codes for loss of comm with PCM, BCM & ICP since I've installed my long tubes last week.

My fob stopped working too.

Sucks...
mine did that too!!!!
go out to the car...... hold the lock and unlock together for 7 seconds untill the horn beeps once. it will start working again!!!!
repeat for second and third fob if applicable!!!!! they most be close to the car. like stand next to the driver door!!! the fobs will need to relearn if away for more than 2 weeks, or their battery dies, or you unhook the battery to the car. i have the actual program sequence somewhere for these if that does not work. but i bet it does for you!! if not pm me and i will find the sequence for you.

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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 03:04 AM
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oh trust me, i know how to program the fobs. it's not a matter of programming them, it's a matter of them remembering to work.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 03:11 AM
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oh trust me, i know how to program the fobs. it's not a matter of programming them, it's a matter of them remembering to work.


that does suck!!!!!! mine has done this every time the battery is disconected. one time just because it wanted too. i feel for you. when mine stop and i have to lock the car with the key or the lock buttons. it will fire the alarm off everytime i open it with the key. untill i put the key in the ignition.
the codes i have thrown are similar to yours, and to another a few posts down from me. he is about to have his car put to sleep it sounds like.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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These are all history codes and doesnt have anything to do with your install. These were most likely there before the install and not the cause of check engine light.

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28-tcc "c1255 h"---- ecu malfunction. what does this mean?

a0-ldcm "b2282 h" , "b2284 h" -- both are voltage out of range battery? from disonect?, "u1064 h"--lost communication w/ xxx????

a1-rdcm "b2283 h" , "b2285 h" -- again voltage out of range battery?? i did unhook it to install headers?, "u1064 h"--the lost com. thing again

borfa "u1096 h" , "u1064 h" , "u1016 h"--- all three are the lost communication with XXX. WTF does this mean??
This is the code that caused the check engine light. Not sure how you would go about fixing it, but it should narrow down for you what to look for.

pcm "p0410 h c"---- secondary air injection code. why what does this mean?
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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the po410 code refers me to the secondary air system in the service manual. then there is a million other p04** codes to determine the excact issue. i finally found that it was the only one to turn on the MIL light. the service cd's did show that the others are like you said, just history codes. do you think they are just from the battery being disconected?
strange thing the car had a horrible miss from the wires not being in all the way. i drove it for several miles then return home and found the problem for them. never threw a code for a miss fire. and it was pretty bad under heavy load. like it was running on 5 or so. i didn't get on it for a few miles to let it get warm thats why it took so long to realize the severity of the miss. now after several drives the thing just throws the p0410 code and on comes the light. the manual says if no faults shown after 3 normal drive operations the light will turn off and the code will be stored untill 40 warm up operations wthout emission related codes thrown. it also says it takes 2 consecutive faults to throw the code. i can only think the O2 sensors are sensing a hick up in the system. are these easily broken from removal/ reinstall? they where handled with delicate hands and i put on anti sieze with the reinstall like told to do. thanks for any more insight into this. i just want to know what needs fixed/replaced without having to go fishing with lots of parts for nothing.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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Clear all the codes and take her for a good run. When youbget back, check the codes! I bet ya there all gone! If there not, list the ones that you have and we will go from there!

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We try harder!!! Hope I can help!

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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Clear all the codes and take her for a good run. When youbget back, check the codes! I bet ya there all gone! If there not, list the ones that you have and we will go from there!

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ok i cleared the codes. all of them. i will be leaving work in about an hr or so. should i spank the heck out of her on the way home to see if i get a code or just do the normal fun getin on it??? i did run it up the road pretty hard right after clearing the codes and the light is still off. but from what i have heard and read. it takes two times to turn on the light. boy i hope your right about it staying gone. i will let ya know Bill,
thanks for the help
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I would drive it normaly on the way to work and then see what they do Then drive it like you stole it on the way home!

That will let you know what sets the codes off if they reappear.

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There are different codes for unexpected response from only one sensor, P0410 indicates both are not responding as expected (short term fuel trim cells too.) If it's persistant, I'd verify you're actually getting air through the AIR tube to the headers. If it were one of the other codes (P1415/6) I'd be looking at something father downstream like one of the check valves.

I'm also not all that surprised by the missing not popping a code. The P0300 gets thrown when it can't blame a particular cylinder. If it's bad enough it'll be so confused that it may not even be able to call it a miss. Remember that it's built to catch things like a sigle failed/failing plug, wire, injector, coil, etc.
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that is what i will do, thanks for the help with this


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the miss was absolutely horrible with hard load. i thought for a while the whole engine was going to explode. sputtering / wobbling, you name it. if there ever was something to confuse one of these that would be it. several of the wires on, but not on enough to make the click noise. smoothed right out when i snaped em on there like i should have. the wires are 6 years old now. i have been told dont worry about replaceing them. seems that is long enough to wait for new ones.
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i replaced my wires because i broke some of them tryin to get them unstuck from the plugs. I got a nasty misfire because I forgot to reattach on of the plug wires because I forgot to re attach the dipstick tubs, So i took off one of the plugs there adn forgot to put it back on. Once I read the code and opened the hood i saw the plug that was unplugged. That was interesting to see, looked like i had a radical cam in the car. Im getting the same code p0140
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Same thing happened with my header install. They not only wiggled spark plug wires lose, they crossed the o2 sensors. Car would barely run. All is well now except the check engine light comes on and I believe it is from the o2 sensor because the cats are not getting hot enough. They have o2 simulators that will solve the problem, I'm going to keep erasing mine for now and when I get tired enough will pick up a couple.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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OK, drove the car home, to the store, to work, to lunch, to the parts store to get my new MSD red plug wires. no codes yet. the light has stayed off so far. i dont know for sure if i really needed the wires but what the heck, they kinda look cool being red and all. the stk ones where kinda tricky. needing to hear two clicks to make sure the coil side was on.
MR BILL CURLEE i think you have figured this out for me!!!!! thanks. i will know more in the next few days. it took a few to throw the code after the install.

dpg----- i almost forgot to put the dipstick tube in also. it was late, and luckily my son noticed it and i was able to put it in. then, like you, i left the plug wire off. he noticed that also!!!!
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dpg----- i almost forgot to put the dipstick tube in also. it was late, and luckily my son noticed it and i was able to put it in. then, like you, i left the plug wire off. he noticed that also!!!!
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So what is your opinion of the headers? Do you notice an increase in performance? What about the sound, fitment, and quality? And lastly what was the total install time and how easy or hard was the install?
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