DTE vs. stock
Le Mans Master
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From: Tampa FL
i believe the biggest part of the dte differentials are the casings themselves .. they're a stronger case and thus in conjunction with the beefier internals can hold up to more power.
i know you can swap the halfs into a stock unit (i believe lingenfelter used to do this) ..
also depending on which one you purchased, will determine what internals are in it and how they're prepped (i.e. micropolishing, etc etc) ..
are you trying to take the halfs from the rearend you blew up and put them in your stock unit?
i know you can swap the halfs into a stock unit (i believe lingenfelter used to do this) ..
also depending on which one you purchased, will determine what internals are in it and how they're prepped (i.e. micropolishing, etc etc) ..
are you trying to take the halfs from the rearend you blew up and put them in your stock unit?
Last edited by NSTG8R; Jun 24, 2006 at 12:23 PM.
Le Mans Master
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From: Tampa FL
Originally Posted by vettenuts
I don't think they strengthen the case, but the clutch pack is different and the internals are modified for better oil distribution. They have a write-up on their web site.
i guess otehr than that .. they just rework the insides.
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From: Fort Wayne Indiana
There are quite a number of internal and external modifications we implement into our HP differentials and it's the sum of those improvements that make up the entire strong differential as a whole. It takes us approx. 12 hours to completely prepare one of our differentials for HP use from start to finish and there is much more to upgrading a HP differential than just "slapping a few hard parts and gear set into the case".
The stock differential of any model or year is a complete joke for real HP use and one would laugh out loud if they really saw what was in there from the factory.. Remember folks, stock differentials are produced in a production-line fashion where speed is the priority target and everything else is second, third, etc.....
Our products are built with just the opposite philosophy~ Quality first, everything else second, third, etc.....
Best Regards,
DTE
The stock differential of any model or year is a complete joke for real HP use and one would laugh out loud if they really saw what was in there from the factory.. Remember folks, stock differentials are produced in a production-line fashion where speed is the priority target and everything else is second, third, etc.....
Our products are built with just the opposite philosophy~ Quality first, everything else second, third, etc.....
Best Regards,
DTE
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From: At the beach in little Rhody
Question for DTE, is there a better year to purchase for upgrade or any one that is better than the other? This is my next planned mod and I am now in pursuit of a good core.
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From: Fort Wayne Indiana
In a nutshell~
If you're choosing to use a stock differential only, the later the better. However, if you're purchasing a HD unit from us, the model year doesn't matter, because we bring every unit up to the same strength level using our latest build techniques, modifications, upgrades, etc., regardless of build date.
We have some very trick billet parts we're nearly ready to release (no timeline yet) that will fortify even the poorest differential casting for HP use. We've been working on them since early February..
Regards,
DTE
If you're choosing to use a stock differential only, the later the better. However, if you're purchasing a HD unit from us, the model year doesn't matter, because we bring every unit up to the same strength level using our latest build techniques, modifications, upgrades, etc., regardless of build date.
We have some very trick billet parts we're nearly ready to release (no timeline yet) that will fortify even the poorest differential casting for HP use. We've been working on them since early February..
Regards,
DTE
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Le Mans Master
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From: Tampa FL
Originally Posted by DynoTech Engineering
We have some very trick billet parts we're nearly ready to release (no timeline yet) that will fortify even the poorest differential casting for HP use. We've been working on them since early February..
Safety Car
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From: Ocean Springs MS
Originally Posted by SPD KILZ
Is it possible just to swap the gears in our stock read end and add the half shafts?
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From: Converse TX
Originally Posted by NSTG8R
I was getting ready to pull the trigger on the current setup, I think I will wait and see if this will help me with putting my 700+ rwhp to the ground
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From: TX
Originally Posted by DynoTech Engineering
There are quite a number of internal and external modifications we implement into our HP differentials and it's the sum of those improvements that make up the entire strong differential as a whole. It takes us approx. 12 hours to completely prepare one of our differentials for HP use from start to finish and there is much more to upgrading a HP differential than just "slapping a few hard parts and gear set into the case".
The stock differential of any model or year is a complete joke for real HP use and one would laugh out loud if they really saw what was in there from the factory.. Remember folks, stock differentials are produced in a production-line fashion where speed is the priority target and everything else is second, third, etc.....
Our products are built with just the opposite philosophy~ Quality first, everything else second, third, etc.....
Best Regards,
DTE
The stock differential of any model or year is a complete joke for real HP use and one would laugh out loud if they really saw what was in there from the factory.. Remember folks, stock differentials are produced in a production-line fashion where speed is the priority target and everything else is second, third, etc.....
Our products are built with just the opposite philosophy~ Quality first, everything else second, third, etc.....
Best Regards,
DTE
As of now I have a bad taste in my mouth from you guys and I don’t see my money returning anytime soon until I can get some hard facts on what is so different besides “quite a number of internal and external modifications”.
Melting Slicks
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From: Las Vegas Nevada
St. Jude Donor '07-'08
Originally Posted by SPD KILZ
Lots of mumbo jumbo and no real answers.... What’s the big difference? The experience iv had with a DTE unit is anything but quality. My stock rear end held up fine under 500 rwhp, then I swapped in a stage 2 with 3.73's and kaboom only after 48 hours. Yes it was used but I trusted the forum and took a price cut for a used rear. Boy was it my mistake.
As of now I have a bad taste in my mouth from you guys and I don’t see my money returning anytime soon until I can get some hard facts on what is so different besides “quite a number of internal and external modifications”.
As of now I have a bad taste in my mouth from you guys and I don’t see my money returning anytime soon until I can get some hard facts on what is so different besides “quite a number of internal and external modifications”.
Racer
Joined: Jun 2004
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From: Brookfield WI
Last year I went with the DTE Stage II package, added the billet pinion shaft support assembly, and also upgraded from 3.15 to 3.42 gears (cryo treated Z06 gears). Everything was cleaned, deburred, blueprinted, etc., with pictures sent to me at various stages of rebuild. I have no doubt that it takes at least 12 hours for DTE to do this work given the precision and attention to detail applied to the task.
I've never had a single problem (no leaks, unusual sounds, vibrations, or anything else), the posi grip is tons better than stock, and the diff easily handles my 423 rwhp (another DTE success story).
I for one see the value of doing this. You spend a lot of money getting the HP - this is the way to get that power to the ground without worrying about what's going to break. This year I added the DTE strut brace for some additional piece of mind.
There are always going to be naysayers, but look around and see how many people consistently praise DTE. You don't get that by doing a bad job. I personally have nothing but respect for Phil and his team.
Anyway, quality costs money, but all-in-all I feel that this is a very good value. Would do it all over again.
Chip
I've never had a single problem (no leaks, unusual sounds, vibrations, or anything else), the posi grip is tons better than stock, and the diff easily handles my 423 rwhp (another DTE success story).
I for one see the value of doing this. You spend a lot of money getting the HP - this is the way to get that power to the ground without worrying about what's going to break. This year I added the DTE strut brace for some additional piece of mind.
There are always going to be naysayers, but look around and see how many people consistently praise DTE. You don't get that by doing a bad job. I personally have nothing but respect for Phil and his team.
Anyway, quality costs money, but all-in-all I feel that this is a very good value. Would do it all over again.
Chip
Burning Brakes
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From: Edmond OK.
Originally Posted by SPD KILZ
Lots of mumbo jumbo and no real answers.... What’s the big difference? The experience iv had with a DTE unit is anything but quality. My stock rear end held up fine under 500 rwhp, then I swapped in a stage 2 with 3.73's and kaboom only after 48 hours. Yes it was used but I trusted the forum and took a price cut for a used rear. Boy was it my mistake.
As of now I have a bad taste in my mouth from you guys and I don’t see my money returning anytime soon until I can get some hard facts on what is so different besides “quite a number of internal and external modifications”.
As of now I have a bad taste in my mouth from you guys and I don’t see my money returning anytime soon until I can get some hard facts on what is so different besides “quite a number of internal and external modifications”.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Mar 2000
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From: Jackson MI
I bought my 2000 vert new. I slowly added power till I now have 432 rwhp. I went with the DTE Stage 4 upgrade with 3.73 gear, micro polish and the strut brace.
I saw the upgraded parts DTE installed and there is huge differance. In addition I had the 2 ribbed case and DTE used a 3 rib deal on the upgrade. The vert season is short in Michigan and I do not want to be down in the summer. The DTE rear end has given me a near bullet proof rear end. They also installed a LS7 clutch and all is very well. The folks there are super but it does cost some cash but great things usually do. I am totally satisfied. Highly recommended!!!!!!!! 
I saw the upgraded parts DTE installed and there is huge differance. In addition I had the 2 ribbed case and DTE used a 3 rib deal on the upgrade. The vert season is short in Michigan and I do not want to be down in the summer. The DTE rear end has given me a near bullet proof rear end. They also installed a LS7 clutch and all is very well. The folks there are super but it does cost some cash but great things usually do. I am totally satisfied. Highly recommended!!!!!!!!
Racer
Joined: Jun 2004
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From: Brookfield WI
Originally Posted by vettenuts
Curious how you like the 3.73's since I can't seem to decide between 3.73 and 3.90.
Just my $0.02
Melting Slicks
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From: Austin Texas
Originally Posted by SPD KILZ
Lots of mumbo jumbo and no real answers.... What’s the big difference? The experience iv had with a DTE unit is anything but quality. My stock rear end held up fine under 500 rwhp, then I swapped in a stage 2 with 3.73's and kaboom only after 48 hours. Yes it was used but I trusted the forum and took a price cut for a used rear. Boy was it my mistake.
As of now I have a bad taste in my mouth from you guys and I don’t see my money returning anytime soon until I can get some hard facts on what is so different besides “quite a number of internal and external modifications”.
As of now I have a bad taste in my mouth from you guys and I don’t see my money returning anytime soon until I can get some hard facts on what is so different besides “quite a number of internal and external modifications”.