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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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I got G5X-2 cam, 5.3 stage 2 heads with Patriot gold spring pkg, stock length harden push rods, stock lifters, and stock rockers.
Recently, the valvetrain seems noisier so I just opened up both valve covers and everything looks fine.
No broken spring. All the rockers still stay at the center of all the springs so I don't think there is any valvetrain geometry issue.

I think I may have broken lifters since the noise comes out on both sides OR maybe I haven't driven it for a while so may have forgotten how noisy my valvetrain was .

Would bent push rods making valvetrain more noisier?

My car idle just fine ... feel a bit weaker tho (but this is the symtom for all C5's owners who just feel their Vettes slower and slower without adding more mods )

Thanks in advance y'all!

-Mike
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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hmmm, franktank recently had this happen. all of a suden after about a month or two, he started getting valvetrain noise. I think his ended up being pushrods. PM him about it and also ttt for you
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Originally Posted by mike76002
Hi,
I got G5X-2 cam, 5.3 stage 2 heads with Patriot gold spring pkg, stock length harden push rods, stock lifters, and stock rockers.
Recently, the valvetrain seems noisier so I just opened up both valve covers and everything looks fine.
No broken spring. All the rockers still stay at the center of all the springs so I don't think there is any valvetrain geometry issue.

I think I may have broken lifters since the noise comes out on both sides OR maybe I haven't driven it for a while so may have forgotten how noisy my valvetrain was .

Would bent push rods making valvetrain more noisier?

My car idle just fine ... feel a bit weaker tho (but this is the symtom for all C5's owners who just feel their Vettes slower and slower without adding more mods )

Thanks in advance y'all!

-Mike
Normal sound if you changed cam and heads
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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A lot of guys put up with the noise because they need more lifter preload to quiet them down. 0.080" - 0.100" will result in a quiet valve train. You should measure your preload and then increase length appropriately. I know someone running a Comp cam that others have noise with and his sounds stock as far as valve train noise.
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Originally Posted by 99torchredlb
Normal sound if you changed cam and heads
Hi,
It is not normal
I have added cam for almost 3 years and G5X-2 was one of the biggest cam at that time and I was one of the very first group on this forum got that cam.

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hmmm, franktank recently had this happen. all of a suden after about a month or two, he started getting valvetrain noise. I think his ended up being pushrods. PM him about it and also ttt for you
Thanks !!!!

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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mike76002
Would bent push rods making valvetrain more noisier?

My car idle just fine ... feel a bit weaker tho (but this is the symtom for all C5's owners who just feel their Vettes slower and slower without adding more mods )
Certainly. If the pushrod is bent then there is going to be more slack in the valvetrain. More slack = more noise. It would also make the car feel a little weaker seeing as it won't be driving the valves open as much as usual.
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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I have had the same noise, I went and replaced the lifters and used
.050 longer pushrods and noise is gone.. The base circle changes the valve train geometry and you lose preload.. Now it sounds the same as stock now..
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Originally Posted by DPG
hmmm, franktank recently had this happen. all of a suden after about a month or two, he started getting valvetrain noise. I think his ended up being pushrods. PM him about it and also ttt for you
Hi Mike- sent you a PM. MY issue was not bent rods, it was an issue with valvetrain geometry being off,, check PM for details.
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Originally Posted by sugarwolf
I have had the same noise, I went and replaced the lifters and used
.050 longer pushrods and noise is gone.. The base circle changes the valve train geometry and you lose preload.. Now it sounds the same as stock now..
What lifters are you using?
I was to change the lifters but one of my local Vette friend told me the stock lifters ares good lifters and can handle G5X-2 just fine so I did not change them.
I have put everything back but will open pass side up again tomorrow to check 2 things:
- Make sure rockers are not chewing any valve.
- Make sure no bent push rods.

Thanks y'all

-Mike
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Originally Posted by mike76002
What lifters are you using?
I was to change the lifters but one of my local Vette friend told me the stock lifters ares good lifters and can handle G5X-2 just fine so I did not change them.
I have put everything back but will open pass side up again tomorrow to check 2 things:
- Make sure rockers are not chewing any valve.
- Make sure no bent push rods.

Thanks y'all

-Mike
I used OEM gm ones (85.00 set of 16 off ebay) when i changed cam, since they had 50K miles on them and i didint want to take any chances on a collapsed lifter since they are worn in for a certian preload and using a aftermarket cam throws off the geometry and preload. So its a insurance since i did have the heads off ect.. Dont want to take any chances on a ticking lifter.. How i know is it has happened to me before in my other vette...
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Did you check the wipe pattern when you installed the cam? Most don't check this and someone recently ate up a set of valves in some aftermarket heads because the rocker was wiping beyond the outer diameter of the valve stem.
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