Laser Diffuser Experts/Installers???
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Burning Brakes
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Laser Diffuser Experts/Installers???
My C5 came with an exotic K 40 set up which is great; interesting alert sounds, and covers front and rear. The problem is that I dislike the front license plate mount which resembles an "ez pass" unit. Can I remount this elsewhere like in one of the openings by the fog lights?
The unit covers other radar bans also which is my main concern here in north Jersey. Any suggestions or comments are greatly appreciated!
The unit covers other radar bans also which is my main concern here in north Jersey. Any suggestions or comments are greatly appreciated!
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Originally Posted by Nick1
My C5 came with an exotic K 40 set up which is great; interesting alert sounds, and covers front and rear. The problem is that I dislike the front license plate mount which resembles an "ez pass" unit. Can I remount this elsewhere like in one of the openings by the fog lights?
The unit covers other radar bans also which is my main concern here in north Jersey. Any suggestions or comments are greatly appreciated!
The unit covers other radar bans also which is my main concern here in north Jersey. Any suggestions or comments are greatly appreciated!
I used to be on a great website that would be much better in answering your questions.....here it is
http://www.radardetector.net/index.p...d6f08315ff847a
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From: Kailua HI
Originally Posted by Nick1
My C5 came with an exotic K 40 set up which is great; interesting alert sounds, and covers front and rear. The problem is that I dislike the front license plate mount which resembles an "ez pass" unit. Can I remount this elsewhere like in one of the openings by the fog lights?
The unit covers other radar bans also which is my main concern here in north Jersey. Any suggestions or comments are greatly appreciated!
The unit covers other radar bans also which is my main concern here in north Jersey. Any suggestions or comments are greatly appreciated!
Last edited by oahuyahoo; Sep 21, 2006 at 12:54 AM.
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Nick, I'm also in north Jersey and have a K40 laser defuser that is mounted on the front plate. I went with that setup since I didn't want the screens cut on my Z06 (laser jammers don't work behind the screens according to every installer I've talked to). But if your fog light areas are open, those locations may be an option for you.
I used Reed Audio in Glen Rock - they were very professional and did a great job. If you're close enough, I'd call or go over there and ask them if they could do it for you or what their opinion is of mounting it in the fog light openings (they are an authorized K40 installer). I know other brands of laser jammers can go there, but the K40 may lose its effectiveness if it's not mounted on the front plate because of its design.
Good luck
I used Reed Audio in Glen Rock - they were very professional and did a great job. If you're close enough, I'd call or go over there and ask them if they could do it for you or what their opinion is of mounting it in the fog light openings (they are an authorized K40 installer). I know other brands of laser jammers can go there, but the K40 may lose its effectiveness if it's not mounted on the front plate because of its design.
Good luck
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Originally Posted by Nick1
Thanks SMR maybe I will try them. I realize I may loose some efficiency in relocating it, but I'm concerned if it is illegal it is too visible where it is....
Laser Jammers and Radar Jammers are illegal in the states of Nebraska, Minnesota, Utah, California, Oklahoma, Virginia, Colorado, Illinois and Washington DC.
I think radar jammers are illegal everywhere, but you're good to go with a laser jammer unless you're planning on some long road trips....
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Originally Posted by oahuyahoo
Your thread mentions laser diffusers and then radar. These are two separate and distinct entities that have completely different applications. Jamming radar is illegal in most places. They use laser here where I live and shifting a laser is not illegal. I mounted my two fronts in the foglight area and put the grill over to hide them from you know who. The rear is on the license plate and looks like the frame.
Your pic looks like an Escort Laser Shifter. I have the same unit with the transducers mounted the same way as you. Mine has "assisted" me on two occasions. 
BTW, active radar jamming is/has been illegal anywhere in the U.S. for a very long time due to the Federal law. It's almost never enforced by the FCC (the enforcement agency) since they have other fish to fry and very few people dedicated to enforcement of something like this anyway. They would (and should) probably get involved if there was jamming involving anything related to national defense and/or national security. 'Course the FBI would be all over that scenario too.
Active radar jamming of speed enforcement will almost always come under a particular state's jurisdiction as well, and they will (and do) enforce that situation.
Laser jamming is not a Federal violation, but a few states do have it on the books apparently.
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Originally Posted by SMR 67
Nick, I'm also in north Jersey and have a K40 laser defuser that is mounted on the front plate. I went with that setup since I didn't want the screens cut on my Z06 (laser jammers don't work behind the screens according to every installer I've talked to). But if your fog light areas are open, those locations may be an option for you.
I used Reed Audio in Glen Rock - they were very professional and did a great job. If you're close enough, I'd call or go over there and ask them if they could do it for you or what their opinion is of mounting it in the fog light openings (they are an authorized K40 installer). I know other brands of laser jammers can go there, but the K40 may lose its effectiveness if it's not mounted on the front plate because of its design.
Good luck
I used Reed Audio in Glen Rock - they were very professional and did a great job. If you're close enough, I'd call or go over there and ask them if they could do it for you or what their opinion is of mounting it in the fog light openings (they are an authorized K40 installer). I know other brands of laser jammers can go there, but the K40 may lose its effectiveness if it's not mounted on the front plate because of its design.
Good luck
Last edited by oahuyahoo; Sep 22, 2006 at 01:10 AM.
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Originally Posted by Nick1
I like the mount by the fog light and will probably do the same, thanks!!
The fog light area is slanted and it's extremely important to aim the diffusers perfectly straight. You might have to shim the one side to get them aiming straight.
Last edited by oahuyahoo; Sep 22, 2006 at 01:25 AM.
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Two are absolutely necessary if you mount them anywhere near the foglights. From what I understand, most cops aim for the front plate. Luckily, aiming a pencil eraser-sized beam steadily from a long distance by hand is not easy. So although the front plate area IS optimal, having two at the sides is fairly effective.
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Originally Posted by Dave68
Two are absolutely necessary if you mount them anywhere near the foglights. From what I understand, most cops aim for the front plate. Luckily, aiming a pencil eraser-sized beam steadily from a long distance by hand is not easy. So although the front plate area IS optimal, having two at the sides is fairly effective.
When installed as per their instructions, Escort's two transponders create an overlapping pattern in front of the vehicle which more than covers the front plate. They are however, horizontally polarized, and need to be very level when installed, but that's not too difficult to accomplish as oahuyahoo points out.
I, for one, would never mount the transponder units behind any kind of grill/screen as that will almost certainly greatly diminish their effectiveness.
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A laser widens at travels distance? I did not think that this happened with laser light. Laser light is orderly, matched wave of lights so that it does not disperse like oher forms of light. I am not a physicist but I believe if the cop hits your front plate and your diffuser is to the right and left of the plate. . . youv'e been had.
I have a K40 system but the laser diffuser looked terrible on my C5 so I did not buy it. Would like to paint it or mask it some other way in order to get it.without ruining the look of the car. A front plate is bad enough.
I have a K40 system but the laser diffuser looked terrible on my C5 so I did not buy it. Would like to paint it or mask it some other way in order to get it.without ruining the look of the car. A front plate is bad enough.
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Originally Posted by Navsafe
A laser widens at travels distance? I did not think that this happened with laser light. Laser light is orderly, matched wave of lights so that it does not disperse like oher forms of light. I am not a physicist but I believe if the cop hits your front plate and your diffuser is to the right and left of the plate. . . youv'e been had.
I have a K40 system but the laser diffuser looked terrible on my C5 so I did not buy it. Would like to paint it or mask it some other way in order to get it.without ruining the look of the car. A front plate is bad enough.
I have a K40 system but the laser diffuser looked terrible on my C5 so I did not buy it. Would like to paint it or mask it some other way in order to get it.without ruining the look of the car. A front plate is bad enough.
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Originally Posted by Navsafe
A laser widens at travels distance? I did not think that this happened with laser light. Laser light is orderly, matched wave of lights so that it does not disperse like oher forms of light. I am not a physicist but I believe if the cop hits your front plate and your diffuser is to the right and left of the plate. . . youv'e been had.
I have a K40 system but the laser diffuser looked terrible on my C5 so I did not buy it. Would like to paint it or mask it some other way in order to get it.without ruining the look of the car. A front plate is bad enough.
I have a K40 system but the laser diffuser looked terrible on my C5 so I did not buy it. Would like to paint it or mask it some other way in order to get it.without ruining the look of the car. A front plate is bad enough.
The types used by LEOs is a relatively low powered, battery operated, portable device and suits law enforcement speed detection purposes well, while at the same time keeping costs down too. Now if LEOs were using the types of laser found in say, the Argonne National Labs or something, your right. You would be dead meat at many miles of range.
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What affect would a nylon knit bra from C5Creations have on a laser gun's ability to track one's speed? Would it reduce the range?
http://www.c5creations.com/gallery.php
http://www.c5creations.com/gallery.php
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Looked up Dirty Howie's License Plate Laser Shield. Would probably be of some help. The plate is what they aim for but I doubt it is all they need to get a reading. The cops obviously aim for the plate and that is why an active Laser Diffuser needs to be near the center. Wish there was a way to mount a diffuser on or about the plate without ruining the look of the car. I am going to go buy some eye glasses to protect me from the Argonne Laser. . . ouch.
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Originally Posted by morepower
What affect would a nylon knit bra from C5Creations have on a laser gun's ability to track one's speed? Would it reduce the range?
http://www.c5creations.com/gallery.php
http://www.c5creations.com/gallery.php
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