C5 engine siezed!!!
Drifting
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From: San Clemente CA
My wife hydro-locked our '84 GTI many years ago. Being a forged motor, the rod bent but didn't break. In any case the car died - immediately! I actually got it running again and drove it home - knock, knock, knock as the bent rod took chunks out of the cylinder wall. Duh on my part! Anyway, we had it machined, sleeved and I rebuilt it only to have it run another 80k miles with no problems.
If you truly hydro'd the engine - as others have suggested - you wouldn't have been able to drive it more than a few feet. I'm guessing something else in the engine got wet, perhaps electrical, whatever. I would demand to have the destroyed/bent/damaged parts showing evidence that the engine was loc'd. Something smells funny here...
If you truly hydro'd the engine - as others have suggested - you wouldn't have been able to drive it more than a few feet. I'm guessing something else in the engine got wet, perhaps electrical, whatever. I would demand to have the destroyed/bent/damaged parts showing evidence that the engine was loc'd. Something smells funny here...
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From: PNW
Originally Posted by DngrZne
Wouldn't it take a pretty good submerging rather then a drive through an inch of standing water to cause that kind of ingestion in the stock box? I know it's easy to do with a cold air system, but I was under the impression the stock box was relatively resistant to this, especially in it's position behind the radiator shroud.
... for a stock airbox to ingest water like that the car would have to be going through 1+ ft of water. I don't think I've ever seen a Vette try to cross a flooded out road, but I guess it could happen. 
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St. Jude Donor '05-'08
Originally Posted by NJ Carpenter
Well...they found water in 2 cylinders. They also have 9 other vettes in their shop for the same problem and same storm..Already filed a comp claim but my insurance co.' fine print sticks me with a $1000 deductible....thanks for all your help...any other suggestions appreciated
10 vettes in one day
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From: Saint Augustine, FL
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Originally Posted by slayer6x6
Well if the MAF got wet, then so did everything behind it. I don't know why everybody is so skeptical to see water damage an engine.
And something tells me that there was more than an inch of water involved in this scenario.
And something tells me that there was more than an inch of water involved in this scenario.
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From: At the beach in little Rhody
Something just doesn't seem right. Water ingestion, then drive home then tow to dealer and two cylinders now full. The sequence of events seem wrong, I could understand driving through water, motor stops and is towed to dealer and that is what they find but driving it home beforehand doesn't compute. Only thing I can think of is the intake tract had water in it that when the dealer started it it hydrolocked or something else is the source of the problem and the engine mechanicals are OK. This doesn't make any sense to me.
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From: Vanceboro NC
Originally Posted by vettenuts
Something just doesn't seem right. Water ingestion, then drive home then tow to dealer and two cylinders now full. The sequence of events seem wrong, I could understand driving through water, motor stops and is towed to dealer and that is what they find but driving it home beforehand doesn't compute. Only thing I can think of is the intake tract had water in it that when the dealer started it it hydrolocked or something else is the source of the problem and the engine mechanicals are OK. This doesn't make any sense to me.
It was very posible for the water to drain from the intake while the car was sitting into the cylinders that had valves open. Then when he tried to start it, it would have been locked up.
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St. Jude Donor '06-'10, '13
I think most are skeptical in this thread because he has his car at a dealer, and we read about so much Dealer BS here on the forum, most assume every dealer is trying to screw every person.
I won't comment past that, unless there are more details about the sequence of events.
If his car was sitting at LPE, LG or ECS right now there would be no skeptisim (spelling?) on whether or not he was getting screwed.
Hope it works out for the best
I won't comment past that, unless there are more details about the sequence of events.
If his car was sitting at LPE, LG or ECS right now there would be no skeptisim (spelling?) on whether or not he was getting screwed.
Hope it works out for the best
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From: Kailua HI
Originally Posted by NJ Carpenter
Well...they found water in 2 cylinders. They also have 9 other vettes in their shop for the same problem and same storm..Already filed a comp claim but my insurance co.' fine print sticks me with a $1000 deductible....thanks for all your help...any other suggestions appreciated
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From: Saint Augustine, FL
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Originally Posted by FrankTank
I think most are skeptical in this thread because he has his car at a dealer, and we read about so much Dealer BS here on the forum, most assume every dealer is trying to screw every person.
Those f'ers (two seperate Chevy dealers) have wrecked 2 of my cars in the past and denied it, so I have no problem saying I don't trust them one bit.
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From: Drexel Hill Pa
Originally Posted by JR_VETTE
As a matter of fact yes, I do feal that way. I have no problem admitting it.
Those f'ers (two seperate Chevy dealers) have wrecked 2 of my cars in the past and denied it, so I have no problem saying I don't trust them one bit.
Those f'ers (two seperate Chevy dealers) have wrecked 2 of my cars in the past and denied it, so I have no problem saying I don't trust them one bit.
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From: Schaumburg IL
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St. Jude Donor '06-'10, '13
Originally Posted by JR_VETTE
As a matter of fact yes, I do feal that way. I have no problem admitting it.
Those f'ers (two seperate Chevy dealers) have wrecked 2 of my cars in the past and denied it, so I have no problem saying I don't trust them one bit.
Those f'ers (two seperate Chevy dealers) have wrecked 2 of my cars in the past and denied it, so I have no problem saying I don't trust them one bit.
I hear ya man, had 2 F-body cars messed up by 2 different chevy dealers..so I'm on your side. I have found 1 Chevy dealer so far in the whole state of IL that I trust with my vette..that's it
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From: Cherry Point NC
My 97 just got back from a reputable vette shop for water damage. It had some pretty bad electrical issues.
The owner of the shop showed me two LS1's they had yanked from hydrolock. Both of them had cracked blocks in the vicinity of cyl #8.
If I were you, I'd check your MAF, PCM, or some other elec system for water damage.
The owner of the shop showed me two LS1's they had yanked from hydrolock. Both of them had cracked blocks in the vicinity of cyl #8.
If I were you, I'd check your MAF, PCM, or some other elec system for water damage.
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From: Saint Augustine, FL
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Originally Posted by slayer6x6
How did they "wreck" your cars?
The second incident was back about 3 years ago. I had a showroom new 1993 40th Anniversary Ruby Red Corvette. The 10 year old car only had 17K miles on it. I took it in to have some minor work done, only to find out my plexi top has been scratched up REALLY badly. It honestly looked like it flew off the car (which I know really isn't possible since they are bolted in place). I had actually been there the day before to pick up the car, only to find they hadn't completed all the work I had asked them to do. At that time, the top was fine. After pointing that out to the service advisor, he finally agreed, and they replaced the top.
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