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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FRED HAMBLE
Both catch cans mentioned here do not have any way to guage when it is full. I saw several on e-bay that had a glass tube. I would think this is necessary.
Who makes a quality Catch Can with an outside tube to check on the amount of fluid in the can?

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Most of the ones I've seen look very cheap. I agree that it would be nice to have although over time, the "sight glass" may not be very clear. If a catch can is just a can with a sight tube, it's going to allow plenty of airborne oil to get past. It is better than nothing, but is very inefficient at best.

Howie, please excuse my ignorance, but what is a plastic HD bowl? It is very important for you to know what material it is made of. Hopefully, the manufacturer did his homework ahead of time.

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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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I think by the time you get oil up to the sight tube to where you can see it, you probably will have too much oil in the can.
Another good reason in my set-up having a long extended hose coming down from the bottom of the can for draining, it will help trap quit a bit of oil in the hose itself and keep it out of the can. I've notice the can collects oil, but once it's starts to build up some, I get some oil passing thru it into my inline filter after it. So I try to keep it as empty as possible.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Do it right, do it once... I love my elite engineering can. Looks and installs OEM.

At VIR it saved 1/4" of oil from being ingested.

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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave68
Most of the ones I've seen look very cheap. I agree that it would be nice to have although over time, the "sight glass" may not be very clear. If a catch can is just a can with a sight tube, it's going to allow plenty of airborne oil to get past. It is better than nothing, but is very inefficient at best.

Howie, please excuse my ignorance, but what is a plastic HD bowl? It is very important for you to know what material it is made of. Hopefully, the manufacturer did his homework ahead of time.

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Sorry for being so cryptic.

I have had the AMW can for quite awhile now and although it is extremely well built and designed ( my opinion ) it still allows some oil vapors to get buy. So I have a Cambell-Housse which everyone gets from Home Depot (HD) inline and after the AMW. It has a plastic bowl (not glass).


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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Do it right, do it once... I love my elite engineering can. Looks and installs OEM.

At VIR it saved 1/4" of oil from being ingested.
I think the Elite can is great ..... it is also just like the AMW in size and function !!!!!


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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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where did You get the C/H unit? You mentioned something about Home Depot? Not the Box Store?????
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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I had the AMW on my blower car.....you can see the top of it mounted right next to the battery. Looked pretty good, IMO.

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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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where did You get the C/H unit? You mentioned something about Home Depot? Not the Box Store?????
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From Home Depot.....


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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Howie
Dave

Sorry for being so cryptic.

I have had the AMW can for quite awhile now and although it is extremely well built and designed ( my opinion ) it still allows some oil vapors to get buy. So I have a Cambell-Housse which everyone gets from Home Depot (HD) inline and after the AMW. It has a plastic bowl (not glass).


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Howie,

That plastic bowl is rated to 125F operating temperature. What can happen is that the polycarbonate can creep, compromising the seal and allowing outside air to enter as a leak. I will be going over this in my report. Since I measured engine bay temps to 137F, I will not be using a plastic-bowl unit.

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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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That plastic bowl is rated to 125F operating temperature. What can happen is that the polycarbonate can creep, compromising the seal and allowing outside air to enter as a leak. I will be going over this in my report. Since I measured engine bay temps to 137F, I will not be using a plastic-bowl unit.

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I would think if the plastic strarts to melt it will actually seal better


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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
I'd rather spend the money and get one that's really nice.

Who want's grandma's old preserve jar on your Vette.

http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/Catch_Can.html


I went with AMW, looks OEM

(I also like EE's)
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Busa196
I had the AMW on my blower car.....you can see the top of it mounted right next to the battery. Looked pretty good, IMO.

Any chance you can tell me how you did the install on the Procharger?
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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Wonder what kind of Jelly was in that jar?
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My "home depot" version cracked and start leaking the oil it was catching, i assume because of the under hood temps do get pretty high.

I finally went with a real catch can, and am already catching good amounts from my daily driving... Much happier with the real thing.

Mike Norris is selling the one i went with, pretty inexpensive compared to the others out here.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SmoothFRC
My "home depot" version cracked and start leaking the oil it was catching, i assume because of the under hood temps do get pretty high.

I finally went with a real catch can, and am already catching good amounts from my daily driving... Much happier with the real thing.

Mike Norris is selling the one i went with, pretty inexpensive compared to the others out here.
Wow....Dave68 warned about this.

How long did it take to crack and do you have any pics of it??

There are so many people using it and this is the first I have heard of it cracking. I wonder if there is a glass replacement bowl.


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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Any chance you can tell me how you did the install on the Procharger?

Yes Sir- "MTI"....
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SmoothFRC
My "home depot" version cracked and start leaking the oil it was catching, i assume because of the under hood temps do get pretty high.

I finally went with a real catch can, and am already catching good amounts from my daily driving... Much happier with the real thing.

Mike Norris is selling the one i went with, pretty inexpensive compared to the others out here.

I asked the question several weeks ago about the CAMPBELL HAUSFIELD/HOME DEPOT clear acrylic cracking in the engine compartment. The oil separator on my HUSKY 6hp/60 gallon compressor cracked after a short period as well. Those that responded said it wasn't an issue...maybe not as much of an issue on a compressor, anyway...
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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mine is set up like allegro's set up and it has not cracked yet.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hotwheels57
I asked the question several weeks ago about the CAMPBELL HAUSFIELD/HOME DEPOT clear acrylic cracking in the engine compartment. The oil separator on my HUSKY 6hp/60 gallon compressor cracked after a short period as well. Those that responded said it wasn't an issue...maybe not as much of an issue on a compressor, anyway...
Generally, a coalescing filter is mounted close to the receiver of the compressed air, not next to the compressor. As I mentiioned before, the clear bowl is polycarbonate and MOST manufacturer's place a temperature limit of 125 degrees F on the spec sheet. If the plastic doesn't crack, it will creep. Howie, creeping plastic can eliminate the compression that is required for o-rings to seal.
I mentioned in a catch can post in "General" that aftermarket catch cans are fairly crude and will not prevent all oil from entering the intake.
I don't want to list all my findings yet, but I can tell you that almost all coalescing filter manufacturers make an aluminum can version. Of course, they are more expensive, but I've been working with pneumatic equipment for many years and I know that you can get a very efficient filter for a lot less than most catch cans. I will install and test one very soon and will report back after a month of testing.

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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by allegro
Mounted my CH can in the battery area, most would not know it is even there.



That looks great. It is nicely tucked away. Hope the lines can be neatly put out of sight also.I think I'll try this myself if I can find one with a glass bowl and also put a filter between the valve cover line to the TB, one of the glass fuel line filters you can see through.
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