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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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My car gets two warning lights when I drive over railroad tracks. Service ABS and service Traction control. What should I be looking for? Loose sensor? loose connection? Is this a common problem? My car is a 2002 Coupe A4. The lights reset themselves when the car is turned off. Next time I go over the tracks they come back on.

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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Check & post your codes. There are a number of possible causes.
Also, do a search, there are numerous posts about this and numerous solutions, depending on cause.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 12:37 AM
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Keep us informed since alot of us have had this problem and some still do. I for one have been trying to chase down the cure for a while. Thanks for any information you find.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 02:41 AM
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Bill Curlee posted a great How To on checking grounds to fix this problem. I would guess that this is more likely than a component failure as you're getting the snag when the car is being jolted. Just a guess though.

PM me and I can send a copy of Bills summary.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 02:48 AM
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I need to tag on to this post.

My Traction control does not selct on or off at all. When the ASR button is pressed nothing happens. I know handling is active when the rear wont break traction, but I can't deselect this, even though I shouldn't

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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 02:54 AM
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I need to tag on to this post.

My Traction control does not selct on or off at all. When the ASR button is pressed nothing happens. I know handling is active when the rear wont break traction, but I can't deselect this, even though I shouldn't

Any help.
Can you post your DIC codes. Could be a module has failed. In my case the problem was intermittent and they replaced the EBCM. The codes should give a clue whether its EBCM, BMPV or wheel sensor.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rubyjames
I need to tag on to this post.

My Traction control does not selct on or off at all. When the ASR button is pressed nothing happens. I know handling is active when the rear wont break traction, but I can't deselect this, even though I shouldn't

Any help.
Pull the switch panel and take a look at the connections on the bottom side. It could be something as simple as a wire off a connector.

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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 02:20 AM
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I'll check out the panel underneath, thanks.

There were no codes thrown for the ASR. Just doesn't activate/ deactivate.
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Looks like the TCS is sensitive on this car. Every time i turn off the TCS/AHS to do a few donuts right after i get done going around a few times it gives me the same error "service active handling".

Even though it was off during the donuts. But when i turn off the car and turn it back on everything is fine
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Here is the info that you need to figure out what DTC's are being set:

This is the absolute best C5 Code web sites!!!

http://www.corvettedoctor.com/Code_Main.html

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http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_cod...d-ii-codes.php

If it happens only after a shock event, you most likely have a bad connection somewhere in the harness/s. The front wheel sensors have a sh!& load of female connections that can go bad. The female pin fails and looses connection. I have a picture of a good and bad connector:

This is the jumper harness that has a tendency to go bad:



Here is the connector:


The connector on the LEFT is new. The one on the right is BAD!!!!

Post your codes and we can narrow it down to which wheel or component.

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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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Bill, do you have a picture/instructions where we can find that jumper on the car? I think I have a similar problem? Does anyone have the GM part # so I could order a new one, seems like it would be pretty cheap.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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The jumper is EASY to locate. Just look on the back of the front wheel hub and you will see that it has a wire and a connector:

Front wheel hub with wire:



Rear wheel hub with wire:






On the FRONT HUBS the hub sensor connects to the jumper cable:



The jumper goes from the hub to the main harness connector on the fraim. Just follow it back and you will see that it is easy to find.


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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 11:49 PM
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Your DIC codes will confirm where the problem is, but I agree with Bill that your issue is likely with an intermittent connector contact.

I had a one time issue with this ABS/TCS warnings and my DIC code was a LF wheel excessive wheel speed as I as slowly oulling out of a parking space.

I pulled the connectors for the LF wheel, checked all the wires and contacts, and added some dielectric grease. The problem hasn't come back.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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With mine, it was the FR wheel. I cleaned all the connections on all the wheels, and a bunch of grounds. The problem has not returned.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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I'm suddenly getting the same two warnings. My battery was completely dead (I mean as if the battery had been removed) after I charged the battery back up, then started the car, the warnings appeared. Never had them before.
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