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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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When changing a cam in a vette a person said that I have to "drop the engine out of the cradle" to do the install because

1. It will be twice the work if I dont
2. I will mess up some of the sensors if I don't.


From what I read I don't see any instructions that mention dopping the engine to do the install. Does the engine need to be dropped or is this just overkill.

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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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No. Look at LS1howto.com. Look at the C5 head and cam install.

You don't have to drop the engine or remove the heads. It is a lot of work either way.

I changed mine in 2004 in the car.

Some tuners will drop the motor because its easier to get to things that way.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Wicked Weasel
When changing a cam in a vette a person said that I have to "drop the engine out of the cradle" to do the install because

1. It will be twice the work if I dont
2. I will mess up some of the sensors if I don't.


From what I read I don't see any instructions that mention dopping the engine to do the install. Does the engine need to be dropped or is this just overkill.

what are you up to weasel??? I want full schematics...
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Wicked Weasel
When changing a cam in a vette a person said that I have to "drop the engine out of the cradle" to do the install because

1. It will be twice the work if I dont
2. I will mess up some of the sensors if I don't.


From what I read I don't see any instructions that mention dopping the engine to do the install. Does the engine need to be dropped or is this just overkill.

If I had to guess I'd say it was April Fool's, but my calendar says it's still December.

Of course you don't drop the motor for a cam swap, you drop the mechanic suggesting it.

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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Did mine in the car alone, dropped a couple of wrenches but no motor
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gonbad
No. Look at LS1howto.com. Look at the C5 head and cam install.

You don't have to drop the engine or remove the heads. It is a lot of work either way.
The ones that do have a lift and the means.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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thanks guys. I think it is someone that just likes to stir things up.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1575328&page=2

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As I said just my two pennys worth, but from the looks of it your a ace mechanic. I bet you turn your on wrench on your car. I have over 20 yrs. From race bikes to cars . I guess you know that anything that comes from the factory is not all polished like sand cast on the MAFS and throttle body. Thermostat what part of the world do you live in, I know that it gets over 100 deg where I live. Timing chain U are right use the old one lololol. And the oil pumps don't come polished. You need to get your facts right. Try doing a cam swap on vette without droping engine out of the cradle. It can be done if you like twice the work and messing up some sensors on the car.

Ps Do you even have a vette I see that your profile lacks that info.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Wicked Weasel
thanks guys. I think it is someone that just likes to stir things up.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1575328&page=2
Merry Xmas! http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...15705&posted=1
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I thought you were trying to play catch up!

Really though, where do people get this idea???
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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The book that the poster references for engine removal actually does recommend removing the entire driver train to change the cam. Might be easier with all the tools/lifts/drive train cradles, but for the average Joe trying to do this in the garage its not.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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I've read some members dropping the cradle only a few inches if not electing to remove the p/s rack

I've seen a lot of information in the books to be inefficient, I choose to leave the A/C and brake systems unopened and with the body
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Originally Posted by Mike69
I thought you were trying to play catch up!

Really though, where do people get this idea???
there has been thoughts to see how the ECS cam would work with the AFR heads....

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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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With the car on jack stands you can support the motor with a jack stand. and lower the x-member to get to the crank pulley. I think its a lot cleaner because you don't have rack fluid all over the place.
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Originally Posted by Dan_the_C5_Man
If I had to guess I'd say it was April Fool's, but my calendar says it's still December.

Of course you don't drop the motor for a cam swap, you drop the mechanic suggesting it.
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Done it three times and never dropped anything, except alot of tools and some fluids.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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Heck, for a cam swap the heads dont even need to come off of the motor... Hardest part is moving the steering rack.
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Originally Posted by Wicked Weasel
thanks guys. I think it is someone that just likes to stir things up.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1575328&page=2
did you like my response?
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Originally Posted by Wicked Weasel
there has been thoughts to see how the ECS cam would work with the AFR heads....

If they need a test mule, I need heads at a test mule price.
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drop ps rack good luck
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