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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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^ Will do, thanks.
Consider yourself lucky that it was only the cam bearing and not a muffler bearing.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Any update? I'm sitting in Portsmouth hotel room reading the forum.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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She said "put it in, oh it is in"
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Any update? I'm sitting in Portsmouth hotel room reading the forum.
Just got back from the gym... Mike's comming over after his night class is done to inspect etc. Will update later.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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I'd go with the opinions of people that have actual, true experience of whats going on, like tuners and engine builders. Many people will tell you what they THINK you should do, without ever have done it before. With that said, its more risky I THINK to try putting a new bearing in, I'd just clean the bearing edge up and run it.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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Another pic... looks a little flakey just the the right of the 6 o'clock position. I really can't believe how soft this lead/copper bearing is.

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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Another pic... looks a little flakey just the the right of the 6 o'clock position. I really can't believe how soft this lead/copper bearing is.
... which is probably why the copper readings in LSx used oil analysis reports are usually pretty high...

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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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Cam is in... carefully filed the nick w/ a very small file, then took 1000 grit to the upper scratch and sanded it a smidge, then wiped clean w/ a paper towel etc... all is well cam went in very easily, spins fine.

Mike (illmac77) filing and inspecting bearing.


Cam slipped in w/ ease
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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That bearing is fine.................seen a lot worse wear/damage
that hes seen it on numerous LS1s, and even the whole thing worn on a few LT1s.

My guess is the timing chain loading causing bearing wear on the front cam bearing........if the endplay is correct
The front bearing gets the least amount of oil compared to the rest.....

This is worn(I have still seen worse!)...........and would most likely need replacement as well as the other 4 of them.


The LS1's main oil galley feeding the main bearings and the camshaft simultaneously (the Small-Block main galley fed the cam bearings first, then the mains). The Gen I/II oiling system was very reliable and that the change in oil routing in the new engine came mainly out of manufacturing concerns.........
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http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/3592...m-Bearings.htm
Good luck on the restart...........always a good thing
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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^ Thanks for the input Steve... I'm trudging ahead
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Boy I'm glad I had CT Corvette do my cam! When I do stuff myself it comes out right but I worry about every little detail and often take twice as long to do the job as someone who has done it a few times. I have no idea what my cam bearings looked like after 130k mi but the car runs great and has good oil pressure...no worries here!
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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I'll just keep an eye on oil pressure.... if it goes down the motor has to come out anyway... so might as well give it a go.

After all the research and worrying I've done and seeing the above post like Steve's w/ the worn bearing I'm begining to think it's ok.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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Your on the money Chris. Just got back from checking it out, it looks alot worse in the picture then it reality, a jewels file to knock off the gouges edges and a little emery cloth for the scratch. Just my QA structural mechanic opinion...BTw when i did my H/C swap this past summer i didn't have to remove my A/C condenser, had enough room after pushing it forward a little to pull the cam out.

Hey Mike, being QA and all, I figure youd enjoy the fact that within the past month, Ive managed to find myself in two different aircraft who's main gear boxes decided they were calling it a day. Looks like you and Brian are havin fun up there in VA....Im just getting ready to tear into mine within the next few weeks. Take care!

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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYNAVY30
Hey Mike, being QA and all, I figure youd enjoy the fact that within the past month, Ive managed to find myself in two different aircraft who's main gear boxes decided they were calling it a day. Looks like you and Brian are havin fun up there in VA....Im just getting ready to tear into mine within the next few weeks. Take care!

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Hey Greg, long time no hear. Hows things going for you besides the MGB? I hope you didnt have to ditch the helo's in the bay like we did when ours failed. what are your plan's for the Z? you going to be able to make it to CF VIII?
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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Fortunately, first one was on deck here at the seawall, the second one was on short final into Austin. The second one actually ended up that one of the brain trusts that they have assembling these things in Cherry Point left a couple of the aluminum assembly shims in the gear box when it was closed up. We pulled the chip detectors on deck in Austin and got a couple hundred aluminum flakes that looked like pencil shavings....some and inch or bigger. After playing the flush/fill/penalty turn game for a few days, we got a one time flight home and they replaced it back here.
As for the car, Im shopping around for heads and cam right now. Im leaning towards the new Trick Flow heads and possibly the same G5X2 Brian's putting in but on a 112 LSA. Any and all suggestions are much appriciated. If you saw the November issue of Popular Hot Rodding, that was my vette in the Top 20 photo contest....only mods so far are the rims/tires, clear corners, and PIAA fog lamps. Next up is heads, cam, long tubes, FAST 90/90 and a few other ods and ends. Hope alls well up at -14.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 01:33 AM
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^ Sounds like a killer package... close to 500 rwhp w/ those heads and the FAST 90/90... may do those next year. Or save for a 416.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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^ Sounds like a killer package... close to 500 rwhp w/ those heads and the FAST 90/90... may do those next year. Or save for a 416.
yea, I was thinking about doing a 402 cu in LS2, but just decided to do the heads and cam and be done with it
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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^ Dude... change your sig... new car pic time

I'd love to order the new 418 shortblock from texas speed, ETP 225 LS7 style heads w/ a FAST 90/90 ported

However I think this cam will hold me over just fine
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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^ Dude... change your sig... new car pic time

I'd love to order the new 418 shortblock from texas speed, ETP 225 LS7 style heads w/ a FAST 90/90 ported

However I think this cam will hold me over just fine
yea i know, ive got the pics, just havent switched it yet....oh yea, I just bought a 2007 Harley Davidson Dyna Street Bob.....flat black paint, blacked out motor, chrome pipes...Ill get some pics up lata
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