500+ hp
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First off I really appreciate everyone's replies on here and they have all been helpful. I drive my car about 5 times a month depending on my work schedule. My goal is for this car to have around 515-530rwhp / 480-510 rwtq. Be able to run high 10's on dR's...while still being able to take it on a trip to florida (500 miles) without any problems. I truely feel that this is not a hard goal to come by especially with a 10k budget.
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That is about my specific combo, look at the streetability video:
I guess it was not with a 346Ci stock short block NA, was it?
The torque is a huge challenge on the road going WOT in any condition, and your tires will remind you that often...
That is exactly what happen when you have mismatched a combo or when you have an engine builder that didn't understood your goals...or was not able to deliver!!!
My so tame combo you saw driving around around my city in the video above is absolutely wild when going WOT, take a look to this one:
We are definitaly on the same page, and a well done engine with 511 rwhp can idle so smoothly that your neighbours will not notice it, it's in this one:
Now the legend bout loosing power down low with a combo producing over 500 rwhp is not aplicable in my engine case; check the compare from my ex 224 camshaft to my new combo...no lost down low...at all.
And Yes, running over 500 rwhp will involved to take care of the complete drivetrain to the tires, and if you just drive on the street, your tire dealer is going to become your best friend...
Christian
The torque is a huge challenge on the road going WOT in any condition, and your tires will remind you that often...
My so tame combo you saw driving around around my city in the video above is absolutely wild when going WOT, take a look to this one:
Now the legend bout loosing power down low with a combo producing over 500 rwhp is not aplicable in my engine case; check the compare from my ex 224 camshaft to my new combo...no lost down low...at all.
And Yes, running over 500 rwhp will involved to take care of the complete drivetrain to the tires, and if you just drive on the street, your tire dealer is going to become your best friend...
Christian
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First off I really appreciate everyone's replies on here and they have all been helpful. I drive my car about 5 times a month depending on my work schedule. My goal is for this car to have around 515-530rwhp / 480-510 rwtq. Be able to run high 10's on dR's...while still being able to take it on a trip to florida (500 miles) without any problems. I truely feel that this is not a hard goal to come by especially with a 10k budget.
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You will need at least a stage IV gear box and a stage II rear differential!!!
And a strong elaborated clutch making both the work on the launch and driving around the city
That doesn't seem to fit with the budget you announce, or is there something I don't catch?
And it seems that you want to drive a lot on the road... a trip to Florida will require pump gas, take care with your engine builder and tuner of this factor as well, a pinging situation with this power leads to immediate destruction.
Christian
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Ok so lets just end it with this last thing then.... I want to get the best h/c package that I can possibly get for my car. Leave the stock bottom,fast 90/90,lg longtubes,xpipe,vararam or honker,underdrive pulleys, tex-clutch, gears, hardened output shafts, dte rearend brace,and a very good tune. I should be close to around 8k there...can this net me around 490-500 rwhp range?
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Ok so lets just end it with this last thing then.... I want to get the best h/c package that I can possibly get for my car. Leave the stock bottom,fast 90/90,lg longtubes,xpipe,vararam or honker,underdrive pulleys, tex-clutch, gears, hardened output shafts, dte rearend brace,and a very good tune. I should be close to around 8k there...can this net me around 490-500 rwhp range?
We have taken off more v-rams to get more power and cooler running engine then put them on to get power. twin air intake causes intake turbulance into the TB. single air intakes are more effiecnt
Fast 90/90s combo are debateable on the 346. Some ppl say yes, most tunes say no not on a 346 does not add anything. but an LS2 or stroker yes. The head flow limits the air flow so the bigger Fast 90/90s are not helpful.
SOme LTs are better at low end torque then high end HP. all depends on the primary tube legnth.
In short, talk to many differnt tuners about what you want. Get to know the tuner and their work. and dont get locked into X or Y product.
If you must start with a product, start with heads. AFR 205s are a very good starting pont.
Then Look for a Cam, PP LS6 intake, tb, Headers to compelement the AFRs. any single tube CAI works as good as the other.
PS Spend some time on LS1tech.com Lots of good and realistic tech info there.
PM Miami above about who built his rocket ship and the costs.
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Melting Slicks
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Hi AU N EGL,
Please take the time to click on the link below, everything and more you are asking is already inside:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1609450
Let me know if you are missing anything
Christian
Please take the time to click on the link below, everything and more you are asking is already inside:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1609450
Let me know if you are missing anything
Christian
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Melting Slicks
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Ok so lets just end it with this last thing then.... I want to get the best h/c package that I can possibly get for my car. Leave the stock bottom,fast 90/90,lg longtubes,xpipe,vararam or honker,underdrive pulleys, tex-clutch, gears, hardened output shafts, dte rearend brace,and a very good tune. I should be close to around 8k there...can this net me around 490-500 rwhp range?
I tryied to point you on the facts working on a 500rwhp+ with a 346Ci NA...I am not sure I made myself clear enough...THEN
Plenty of vendors around will sell you "the package"!!!
If you take your time through the archives as well you will read stories about some packages that went wrong, cost really higher than planed at the end, and some cars were stuck in the "garage waiting to be repaired by the professional" after some thousand miles.
I am surprised that after one year of saving you didn't do your homework on your project, I know some persons that plan on how to spend 10.000,00 in a window of less than one month.
I hope you learned enough reading my thread on this subject, it seems that yes because you didn't ask anything technical about it...
Have fun
Christian
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as Miami says, "DO YOUR HOMEWORK"
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If you seek reliability why are you going to push a 346 to its limits? If you go big cube you can make the same power with a not so extreme setup. You will have the same power without sacraficing reliablility, more torque, and still have your NA motor. Just throwing that option out there again. Seems like you haven't done much research yet and the first thing I would recommend is reading up A LOT. Go to the track and see what kind of setups people have and how they run. Make sure you know you are buying exactly what you want. Backtracking is expensive.
Curiosity got me. Miami, what does your car run?
Curiosity got me. Miami, what does your car run?
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It is a Melling High Volume Low Pressure...
Pressure varies from 36 idle oil temp 240 to 80 at 7300rpm for the same oil temp.
You will find the pictures of it plus technical data in the ZO6 section in my thread:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1609450
Good read...
Christian
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I mean what does it run in the 1/4 mile? Just wondering if you have any track results to back up the dyno sheet.
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I am planning to take a chance to try my skills for the first time after October (business/schedule related), it is going to be a completely new exercise for me, I am used to racing but never in drag racing...
In fact I never saw an event for the moment but I am sure I will find some fun moment in a cool atmosphere in the Corvette Challenge in Moroso or similar!!!
I need to finish the preparation of the car before launching and not beeing ridiculous, then I am looking for a CCW Drag Pack with ET Street and a 4:10 rear dif stage II to complement the driveline and optimize the use of the power band.
My thread in the ZO6 section will be updated with those ET numbers as I did in the past to make it informative.
Subscribe to it you will know what number this car is putting down, and if the dyno numbers are backed-up!!!
Christian
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Thank you for asking...
I am planning to take a chance to try my skills for the first time after October (business/schedule related), it is going to be a completely new exercise for me, I am used to racing but never in drag racing...
In fact I never saw an event for the moment but I am sure I will find some fun moment in a cool atmosphere in the Corvette Challenge in Moroso or similar!!!
I need to finish the preparation of the car before launching and not beeing ridiculous, then I am looking for a CCW Drag Pack with ET Street and a 4:10 rear dif stage II to complement the driveline and optimize the use of the power band.
My thread in the ZO6 section will be updated with those ET numbers as I did in the past to make it informative.
Subscribe to it you will know what number this car is putting down, and if the dyno numbers are backed-up!!!
Christian
I am planning to take a chance to try my skills for the first time after October (business/schedule related), it is going to be a completely new exercise for me, I am used to racing but never in drag racing...
In fact I never saw an event for the moment but I am sure I will find some fun moment in a cool atmosphere in the Corvette Challenge in Moroso or similar!!!
I need to finish the preparation of the car before launching and not beeing ridiculous, then I am looking for a CCW Drag Pack with ET Street and a 4:10 rear dif stage II to complement the driveline and optimize the use of the power band.
My thread in the ZO6 section will be updated with those ET numbers as I did in the past to make it informative.
Subscribe to it you will know what number this car is putting down, and if the dyno numbers are backed-up!!!
Christian
