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Old 08-25-2007, 10:31 PM
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So you are saying if we want more power, all we have to do is pop a washer in the intake, and call you in the morning?

That's pretty funny. I will tell you that is how this is going to work.
Old 08-25-2007, 10:58 PM
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Here's what happened when a valve broke and dropped - instant and total destruction. (my old 68). Believe me, I know how you feel!


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Man that sucks..

I'm not sure if you need them, but I have a set of stock 853 heads off of my 2000 C5. They have 29000 miles on them..

They are yours for free if they will get you on the road any sooner.
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Man that sucks..

I'm not sure if you need them, but I have a set of stock 853 heads off of my 2000 C5. They have 29000 miles on them..

They are yours for free if they will get you on the road any sooner.

Wow...now THAT is generosity, good to see that!!

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Old 08-26-2007, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AMERICAN_HP
Man that sucks..

I'm not sure if you need them, but I have a set of stock 853 heads off of my 2000 C5. They have 29000 miles on them..

They are yours for free if they will get you on the road any sooner.
Wow man, I totally appreciate that! Thanks! This isn't my DD, so although I'd like to get back on the road asap I'm working on a plan to have 'Seabiscuit' make a strong comeback. I'm sending my heads back to Tony Mamo and I think I'm putting in a forged 402. I'm contacting him this week and we are going to go over some options. At the least he will fix them and then port them so they will be 'better than before'. Again thank you for the offer. It's sentiment like that that makes this forum great.
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Originally Posted by Dave68
Here's what happened when a valve broke and dropped - instant and total destruction. (my old 68). Believe me, I know how you feel!


Wow, I didn't grenade like that! I imagine the head on your car was trash along with the bottom end, that looks catastrophic. Unfortunately as you know it doesn't make much difference. A washer or a valve, the outcome is the same... new motor. The good news for me is that it looks like the head can be salvaged. I will be talking to Tony this week and talk some options. After he sees them we'll know where we'll be going.
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My lesson learned: Don't trust that anyone's choice of high-performance part is correct unless you've researched it, yourself. With the cam my 327 had, the heads should've had triple springs. This fact slipped by the head machining shop and the result was a completely destroyed fuelie (2.02/1.60) head and an engine cylinder that needed to be fitted with a sleeve. I was lucky to find a machineable fuelie head, but after the block was sleeved, the engine as a whole, always ran hot. You're right about the potential of damage from almost any hard object; it doesn't take much!

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My lesson learned: Don't trust that anyone's choice of high-performance part is correct unless you've researched it, yourself. ...
I learned that lesson also when I told TSP (Texas Speed and Marine) that I wanted coated forged pistons stronger than Diamond pistons, and the guy sold me a shortblock with high-silicon 4030 alloy Mahle pistons. I didn't research the parts to find that out, the motor lasted 35mi, and it cost me $5K and two years of downtime (from being disgusted).

Good to see the 'washer mod' is working out. I'm also having a forged LS2 shortblock built, by Robert @ Advanced Dyno (Suisun City, CA).
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I know exactly how you feel. I did the same thing years ago on a new Ford 5.0L engine. It sucked having to rebuild the engine after building it the first time. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by AMERICAN_HP
Man that sucks..

I'm not sure if you need them, but I have a set of stock 853 heads off of my 2000 C5. They have 29000 miles on them..

They are yours for free if they will get you on the road any sooner.
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DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel your pain bro.. I really do.
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That really sucks man.....Best of luck on your rebuild and getting more power on the next go around!
Old 09-02-2007, 08:14 AM
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How long was the engine running before you shut it down? Must have been loud as hell.
Old 09-02-2007, 02:30 PM
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OUCH! I feel your pain.
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Originally Posted by thetorch
I know exactly how you feel. I did the same thing years ago on a new Ford 5.0L engine. It sucked having to rebuild the engine after building it the first time. Good luck.
If misery loves company... Thanks for the empathy. With all the responses to this so far it really has helped to know that I'm not the only one. This forum has helped me in many ways more than I can tell. The only way I can give back is to give my best advice based on experience, and I will. As I said above, A bit of Tony's magic and a new LIngenfelter 403 should help ease the pain. Look for some more pictorials and snippets of the rebuild as I go along. I just stripped accesories off the front of the motor today. Tomorrow, I'm taking the steering out. This week I'm hoping BLACKTOP2000 has some time to help me get the hood off and the radiator out.
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Originally Posted by utryd2
That really sucks man.....Best of luck on your rebuild and getting more power on the next go around!
Thanks, and I'm looking forward to it.
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Originally Posted by cbx1047cc
How long was the engine running before you shut it down? Must have been loud as hell.
It ran for probably 2 seconds TOTAL. It light made all kinds of noise and I shut it off as a reflex, but it was too late. By the time it was all over it probably hit 40-50 times. A regular washer would have probably just got spit out the exhaust, but these are beefy. Heh, it WAS loud, it sounded like I ran over a pile of wrenches with my lawnmower.

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Old 09-03-2007, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by flasunshine1
OUCH! I feel your pain.
Thanks. That's a sweet C3. That pic in your sig looks like NJ. BTW, I have some friends in Spring Hill.
Old 09-17-2007, 09:46 PM
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Any idea on build direction??

Chris


You can make it stronger...You have the capabilities!!!!
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as i said in the other forum-good luck with new build bro


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