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anyone know of a shop or someone that does complete egine biulds for a good price? so far the only one i know is A&A performance (http://www.aacorvette.com/) if any one has there web site that would also be great. im trying to biuld something no to expensive 3-4 grand to put the sts kit on it. whats my best options? and what would you all go with? my corvette is a regular c5, thanks...
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i will definatly be in touch then. and wwell work something out. i just want someone to do clean and dependable work, i just want something to hold 10-13PSI and 600-650 HP. and be a dialy driver, not a weekend wonder.
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There are lots of ANDs in there.
For instance, LGs motor in his World Challenge Corvette is a 6 liter LS2. It has forged internals, blue printed, balanced, dry sump oiling system, Fast 90/90 & puts out ~ 550 BHP before the air restrictors the SCCA-Pro Mandates. SO his car is about 525 BHP.
His engines are good for three to four races before blowing up or need to be rebuilt.
I mean no offense, but instead of being a numbers person, why not figure out what you want your car to do? then talk to an engine builder you trust and get their recommendations.
Big numbers, big boost AND reliability are not always used in the same sentence.
I would love to have a 600 bhp monster LS7 or LSx ( 427 ci ) block and race motor.
Good luck on your project
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We have just finished a 1,000 RWHP Z06 that we built to hold 23lbs boost, but it makes the #'s at 19. We have a variable boost controller so it can be driven at 12-15 and still give 600-700 to be more driveable.
Of course this was purpose built from the motor on back to the rear & cost over $60k, it is built with the best we do. The car is beyond a beast, but looks stock (turbos hid in the frnt fenders, etc.) for the ultimate sleeper look.
You are correct that this is not a car that will be driven 200k miles w/out issues, but driven conservative should give some trouble free miles with an occaisonal 230 mph run.
Of course this was purpose built from the motor on back to the rear & cost over $60k, it is built with the best we do. The car is beyond a beast, but looks stock (turbos hid in the frnt fenders, etc.) for the ultimate sleeper look.
You are correct that this is not a car that will be driven 200k miles w/out issues, but driven conservative should give some trouble free miles with an occaisonal 230 mph run.
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ok heres my more realistic thing i want: i just want my car to run on the sts kit @ 6-8 psi and the engine be good enough to bring me into the mid to low 11's. hope that better. numbers actually really arent the issue here.
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If that is what you want. I would think that all you would need is to have the existing engine refreshed and the sts kit installed
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If your in Birmingham your less than a two hour drive from MTI Racing. They built my 427 and now I am having a blower installed and it is a daily driver. Check out the web site and you can also see what kind of great work they do. www.mtiracing.com Tell em Matt sent ya!
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If your in Birmingham your less than a two hour drive from MTI Racing. They built my 427 and now I am having a blower installed and it is a daily driver. Check out the web site and you can also see what kind of great work they do. www.mtiracing.com Tell em Matt sent ya!
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with the budget you stated of 3-4 grand , just rebuild your current motor with forged rod and pistons for around $2000-2800 depending on what all you do. a 402LS2 short block can be built for about $4200 but then you still have all the extras and the install labor to go with that...
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Here's a list of motors from a while back...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ed&forum_id=86
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ed&forum_id=86
Maybe it's better to ask on LS1tech, but what forged shortblocks have you guys found? I was about to place an order with Andy, but I didn't realize a core charge existed.
Edit 10/13/05: Some builders only use new blocks which are 2nd-Gen LS motors and which require shorter head studs. A set of replacement ARP head studs adds about $250 to the price. I wasn't warned about this when I ordered my TSP motor although they asked what year my block was. I didn't discover this until assembly time.
This is what I found so far (prices are shortblock/core/total), sorted by total price:
_____$2,000+_____
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,699 no core $0 Texas Speed (TX) Special $2,699
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,789 no core $0 SDPC (TX) Post $2,789
347 LS6 forged pistons (stock rods & crank) $2,095 plus core $800 Lingenfelter (IN) $2,895
_____$3,000+_____
370 Iron forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $3,299 no core $0 MTI (TX) $3,299
347 LS6 Stg1 forged pistons (stock rods & crank) $2,395 plus core $1,000 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $3,395
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,595 plus core $1,000 FLP (IL) $3,595
402 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $3,599 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $3,599
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,600 plus core $1,000 (est core) HPE (TX) $3,600
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,700 plus core $950 Cartek (NJ) $3,650
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,799 plus core $1,000 (est core) Speed Inc (IL) $3,799
402 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $3,800 no core $0 Texas Speed(TX) Special $3,800
402 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $3,900 no core $0 Tbyrne Motorsports (MA) $3,900
347 LS6 Stg1 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,995 plus core $1,000 A&A Corvette (CA) $3,995
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,995 plus core $1,000 MTI (TX) $3,995
347 LS6 forged pistons (stock rods and crank) $3,000 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $3,995
347 LS6 Stg2 forged pistons (stock rods & crank) $2,999 plus core $1,000 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $3,999
402 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $3,999 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $3,999
_____$4,000+_____
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $3,095 plus core $1,000 Thunder Racing (LA) $4,095
402 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $4,095 no core $0 SDPC (TX) Special $4,095
347 LS6 S2 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $3,595 plus core $1,000 A&A Corvette (CA) $4,595
403 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $4,595 no core $0 Lingenfelter (IN) $4,595
383 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $3,995 plus core $650 Thunder Racing (LA) $4,645
382 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $4,395 plus core $600 FLP (IL) $4,995
370 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $4,900 no core $0 ARE (CAN) $4,900
_____$5,000+_____
408 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $5,000 no core $0 Cartek (NJ) $5,000
382 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $4,500 plus core $600 Cartek (NJ) $5,100
402 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $5,395 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $5,395
408 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $4,600 plus core $1,000 (est core) Speed Inc (IL) $5,600
408 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $5,995 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $5,995
402 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $5,995 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $5,995
_____$6,000+_____
408 Iron forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $6,295 no core $0 MTI (TX) $6,295
408 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $6,296 no core $0 FLP (IL) $6,296
383 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $5,395 plus core $1,000 (est core) Rapid Motorsports (PA) $6,395
383 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $5,795 plus core $800 Lingenfelter (IN) $6,595
388 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $5,700 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $6,700
383 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $5,795 plus core $1,000 A&A Corvette (CA) $6,795
412 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $6,995 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $6,995
_____$7,000+_____
396 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $6,000 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $7,000
408 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $6,995 plus core $1,000 A&A Corvette (CA) $7,995
427 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $7,995 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $7,995
_____$8,000+_____
427 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $7,500 plus core $600 Cartek (NJ) $8,100
409 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $7,900 plus core $400 (est core) ARE (CAN) $8,300
427 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $8,350 no core $0 ARE (CAN) $8,350
385 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $7,550 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $8,550
396 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $7,850 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $8,850
427 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $7,500 plus core $1,000 (est core) Speed Inc (IL) $8,500
_____$9.000+_____
427 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $9,000 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $10,000
441 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $9,300 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $10,300
427 C5R forged pistons, rods, crank $11,995 no core $0 FLP (IL) $11,995
427 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $12,639 no core $0 Lingenfelter (IN) $12,639
Edit 10/13/05: Some builders only use new blocks which are 2nd-Gen LS motors and which require shorter head studs. A set of replacement ARP head studs adds about $250 to the price. I wasn't warned about this when I ordered my TSP motor although they asked what year my block was. I didn't discover this until assembly time.
This is what I found so far (prices are shortblock/core/total), sorted by total price:
_____$2,000+_____
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,699 no core $0 Texas Speed (TX) Special $2,699
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,789 no core $0 SDPC (TX) Post $2,789
347 LS6 forged pistons (stock rods & crank) $2,095 plus core $800 Lingenfelter (IN) $2,895
_____$3,000+_____
370 Iron forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $3,299 no core $0 MTI (TX) $3,299
347 LS6 Stg1 forged pistons (stock rods & crank) $2,395 plus core $1,000 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $3,395
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,595 plus core $1,000 FLP (IL) $3,595
402 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $3,599 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $3,599
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,600 plus core $1,000 (est core) HPE (TX) $3,600
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,700 plus core $950 Cartek (NJ) $3,650
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,799 plus core $1,000 (est core) Speed Inc (IL) $3,799
402 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $3,800 no core $0 Texas Speed(TX) Special $3,800
402 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $3,900 no core $0 Tbyrne Motorsports (MA) $3,900
347 LS6 Stg1 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,995 plus core $1,000 A&A Corvette (CA) $3,995
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $2,995 plus core $1,000 MTI (TX) $3,995
347 LS6 forged pistons (stock rods and crank) $3,000 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $3,995
347 LS6 Stg2 forged pistons (stock rods & crank) $2,999 plus core $1,000 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $3,999
402 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $3,999 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $3,999
_____$4,000+_____
347 LS6 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $3,095 plus core $1,000 Thunder Racing (LA) $4,095
402 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $4,095 no core $0 SDPC (TX) Special $4,095
347 LS6 S2 forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $3,595 plus core $1,000 A&A Corvette (CA) $4,595
403 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $4,595 no core $0 Lingenfelter (IN) $4,595
383 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $3,995 plus core $650 Thunder Racing (LA) $4,645
382 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $4,395 plus core $600 FLP (IL) $4,995
370 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $4,900 no core $0 ARE (CAN) $4,900
_____$5,000+_____
408 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $5,000 no core $0 Cartek (NJ) $5,000
382 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $4,500 plus core $600 Cartek (NJ) $5,100
402 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $5,395 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $5,395
408 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $4,600 plus core $1,000 (est core) Speed Inc (IL) $5,600
408 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $5,995 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $5,995
402 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $5,995 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $5,995
_____$6,000+_____
408 Iron forged pistons & rods (stock crank) $6,295 no core $0 MTI (TX) $6,295
408 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $6,296 no core $0 FLP (IL) $6,296
383 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $5,395 plus core $1,000 (est core) Rapid Motorsports (PA) $6,395
383 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $5,795 plus core $800 Lingenfelter (IN) $6,595
388 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $5,700 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $6,700
383 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $5,795 plus core $1,000 A&A Corvette (CA) $6,795
412 LS2 forged pistons, rods, crank $6,995 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $6,995
_____$7,000+_____
396 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $6,000 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $7,000
408 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $6,995 plus core $1,000 A&A Corvette (CA) $7,995
427 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $7,995 no core $0 Rapid Motorsports (PA) $7,995
_____$8,000+_____
427 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $7,500 plus core $600 Cartek (NJ) $8,100
409 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $7,900 plus core $400 (est core) ARE (CAN) $8,300
427 Iron forged pistons, rods, crank $8,350 no core $0 ARE (CAN) $8,350
385 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $7,550 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $8,550
396 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $7,850 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $8,850
427 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $7,500 plus core $1,000 (est core) Speed Inc (IL) $8,500
_____$9.000+_____
427 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $9,000 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $10,000
441 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $9,300 plus core $1,000 (est core) ARE (CAN) $10,300
427 C5R forged pistons, rods, crank $11,995 no core $0 FLP (IL) $11,995
427 LS6 forged pistons, rods, crank $12,639 no core $0 Lingenfelter (IN) $12,639
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I am Having txs Speed Build me there 402 & it is For boost 9 to1 , i have 5k in it & it does not have heads/Intake or Hdrs on yet & It still has to be installed , for a shop to install it ,i was Quoted 2k for them to take my old motor out disassemble the Ecs Kit /Put the 402 in & Install the ecs kit,500.00 more on a tune with the budget you stated of 3-4 grand , just rebuild your current motor with forged rod and pistons for around $2000-2800 depending on what all you do. a 402LS2 short block can be built for about $4200 but then you still have all the extras and the install labor to go with that...
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