What exactly is proved by using Nitrous?
Melting Slicks
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Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Joel Fromkin)
I LOVE THE STUFF!!!! 11:80 on the run craps. Now thats fun :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :crazy: :crazy: :seeya
And what's all the fuss about the bottle running empty. I have yet to have it happen to me at the track or on the street...I've got 5 bottles mind you. :lol:
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From: McKinney Tx
Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (whip383)
NOS is always gonna be around just for the fact that it can add so much power so easily and that's also why no one has much respect for it. It's usually for shops that can't make their poopie run. I do think NOS is cool personally because it does generate a lot of business and does make cars haul butt that normally would be too slow. It is a definite science to making a fast NOS race car and I respect the hell out of that. EZ street in the NMCA has iron headed 400 inch solid flat tappet steel valved Fox Body Mustangs and Camaros running low 8s at 165 on NOS and 10 inch tires! :p:
I guess the original poster meant that it's hard to even tell if a car is fast if it's using NOS for real. After the first 20 laps of TWS the motor car will mow you down if you haven't blown up already. NOS is great for drag racing though!
I guess the original poster meant that it's hard to even tell if a car is fast if it's using NOS for real. After the first 20 laps of TWS the motor car will mow you down if you haven't blown up already. NOS is great for drag racing though!
Melting Slicks
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Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (C5Cemo)
Main reason for going N20. I only use extra HP when I need it :D
When that Viper pulls up to me, he better watch out :eek:
When that Viper pulls up to me, he better watch out :eek:
Drifting
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Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Purerock105)
It is amazing how this has more than raised a few emotions.
My take on this is "you pay your dollars, you gets your mod"
If you want this mod, get it, if you don't period.
I personally do not need to beat someone racing to feel superior. Hell I already feel that way just driving my beautiful vette now :p: :p: :p: :p: :p:
My take on this is "you pay your dollars, you gets your mod"
If you want this mod, get it, if you don't period.
I personally do not need to beat someone racing to feel superior. Hell I already feel that way just driving my beautiful vette now :p: :p: :p: :p: :p:
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From: Elko, Nevada
Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (intel55)
wow this is STILL going
Nitrous is just another power added mod, like a full-out built racing motor to just 'head & cam' packages. If you're afraid that you'll lose, then I guess you ought not line up.
My angle was more 'on the street' (not that we responsible people do that).
I should have clarified. Anyways thanks for chiming in :cheers:
Drifting
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Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Purerock105)
wow this is STILL going
My original post/topic starter should have excluded 'at the track' usage of Nitrous. In that realm, it is indeed 'Run What You Brung". At that level
Nitrous is just another power added mod, like a full-out built racing motor to just 'head & cam' packages. If you're afraid that you'll lose, then I guess you ought not line up.
My angle was more 'on the street' (not that we responsible people do that).
I should have clarified. Anyways thanks for chiming in :cheers:
My original post/topic starter should have excluded 'at the track' usage of Nitrous. In that realm, it is indeed 'Run What You Brung". At that level
Nitrous is just another power added mod, like a full-out built racing motor to just 'head & cam' packages. If you're afraid that you'll lose, then I guess you ought not line up.
My angle was more 'on the street' (not that we responsible people do that).
I should have clarified. Anyways thanks for chiming in :cheers:
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From: Austria
Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Skeeter1)
For me NOS is a mod like all the others!!
Only it is cheaper!!
That´s all!!!
So why not use it, at the track and on the street!!!!!!!
Michael
Only it is cheaper!!
That´s all!!!
So why not use it, at the track and on the street!!!!!!!
Michael
Melting Slicks
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From: Los Angeles CA
.......this is funny.....
I used to run alot of "juice", and whenever someone would acuse me of cheating because I smoked them by 10 car lengths on the bottle my typical response is "Hey I can turn the AC on and give you a full second head start if you think that would make things more fair".
I will say this as well. I've spent over $3,000 in the past ten years (and alot more than that on refills) on nitrous systems, controllers, custom installs etc. Honestly there is alot more science and know how in installing and properly using nitrous than there is in paying some tuner $3000 to install heads and cam for you. And an all stock Nitrous car is a much easier, more reliable daily driver than 90% of the other power adder cars out there. Check out "true street" competition where you have to drive your car on a street circut and then without any prep run the car at the track. The winners are allways nitrous cars.
Turbos, superchargers, strokers, head and cam and nitrous all require some comprimise in driveability, emissions, etc. From personal experiance, Nitrous cars require fewer comprises.
All that being said, my ideal vette is a mild head cam car with a 150 shot sitting in the wings.
-Adam
[Modified by Adam Bruce, 8:36 PM 11/16/2001]
I will say this as well. I've spent over $3,000 in the past ten years (and alot more than that on refills) on nitrous systems, controllers, custom installs etc. Honestly there is alot more science and know how in installing and properly using nitrous than there is in paying some tuner $3000 to install heads and cam for you. And an all stock Nitrous car is a much easier, more reliable daily driver than 90% of the other power adder cars out there. Check out "true street" competition where you have to drive your car on a street circut and then without any prep run the car at the track. The winners are allways nitrous cars.
Turbos, superchargers, strokers, head and cam and nitrous all require some comprimise in driveability, emissions, etc. From personal experiance, Nitrous cars require fewer comprises.
All that being said, my ideal vette is a mild head cam car with a 150 shot sitting in the wings.
-Adam
[Modified by Adam Bruce, 8:36 PM 11/16/2001]
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From: Lancaster ca
Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Purerock105)
I have always wondered the same thing, what is proven by using nitrous. However, thinking about it, if there was a higher octaine rated gas wouldn't everyone use it for better performance? I say yes we would, at least I would. So with this said whats the difference in using higher octaine rated gas or nitrous for better performance. :seeya
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From: Columbia, SC, USA
Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Purerock105)
Nitrous is not for "proving" anything. It is for having MORE fun with your already fast Vette. Yes, that's right, it makes your car MORE FUN to drive. Remember..."If more is better than too much is just right!"
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Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (vette-crazy)
More speed through chemicals. Heck, isn't that what Ben Johnson said? :yesnod: When I see a car spraying at the track, I just dismiss its results like the IOC did with poor old Ben. :smash: Now making the engine a more efficient air pump with blocks, pistons, heads, cams, etc. that's like building muscle and speed without the roids. :eek: If your sprayin, us natural boys ain't playin. :D
Drifting
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Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Rippied Z06)
About a year ago pictures of a car in which a nitrous bottle exploded were posted here. The bottle exploded when the car was garaged. The car was totalled.
Let's assume a nitrous bottle is mounted in the center trunk compartment, which normally gets nice and hot due to the proximity of the exhaust system. Lets further assume you're on an all day trip to Las Vegas in the summer and you've got a black on black car. Maybe you're using some kind of bottle heater, and it malfunctions.
I'm not sure I like those odds.
Sure I paid a lot more, but I don't have a time bomb in the back of my car and the magic doesn't last only a minute. If I run into some Turbo Carrera on the way to Vegas, the fun may last a lot longer than just a couple of minutes.
NOS boys! NOS boys! Whatcha gonna do when it runs out on you! :cry:cry:cry
[Modified by TCSF, 1:00 AM 11/17/2001]
Let's assume a nitrous bottle is mounted in the center trunk compartment, which normally gets nice and hot due to the proximity of the exhaust system. Lets further assume you're on an all day trip to Las Vegas in the summer and you've got a black on black car. Maybe you're using some kind of bottle heater, and it malfunctions.
I'm not sure I like those odds.
Sure I paid a lot more, but I don't have a time bomb in the back of my car and the magic doesn't last only a minute. If I run into some Turbo Carrera on the way to Vegas, the fun may last a lot longer than just a couple of minutes.
NOS boys! NOS boys! Whatcha gonna do when it runs out on you! :cry:cry:cry
[Modified by TCSF, 1:00 AM 11/17/2001]
Melting Slicks
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Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (TCSF)
TCSF
Bottle would never explode on properly installed N20 system. On post you are refferring to bottle was installed with two rupture disks. Rupture disks are used to prevent bottle from exploding from over pressure.
By the way N20 gaS is none flammable.
Bottle would never explode on properly installed N20 system. On post you are refferring to bottle was installed with two rupture disks. Rupture disks are used to prevent bottle from exploding from over pressure.
By the way N20 gaS is none flammable.
Drifting
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From: Brandon FLorida
Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Purerock105)
I DON'T HAVE NITROUS ON MY VETTE BUT I HAVE USED IT AND IT IS FUN. I FEEL IT IS THE SAME AS USING A BLOWER OR TURBO CHARGER PEOPLE WILL SAY THE SAME THING, BUT HE HAD A BLOWER :cry AND I DON'T :cry I SAY EXACTLY YOU DON'T DO YOU!!! THE MEN WITH THE MOST TOYS WIN :D IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO RACE DON'T PUT YOUR CAR ON THE TRACK.... BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ALL THE :nopity WHEN YOU GET SPANKED :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (TCSF)
I remember that post. That guy disconnected the pressure release valve(jamed it shut).He also had his bottle heater on a constant hot line instead of working only when the key was in the on position. It was a nissan maxima. He was a butthole. I left my car in 110 degree heat with never a problem. By the way, NOS is non-flamable. And all the peolple who do heads and cam packages and won't run a car with NOS are sounding like a bunch of crybabies :seeya :seeya
Drifting
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From: Memphis Tn
Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Purerock105)
What exactly is proven by using nitrous?
In a blatantly direct and purely elementary answer to your question without getting into highly technical specifics of this modification and its phenomenal results, ---I WIN !!! :p: :p: :p: :lol: :lol: :jester :hat :jester
Ofcourse this stuff doesn't get any repect at the track if its the only mod on your car. Why would it? People want to go fast and they want to know your secrets, cam specs, pistons & crank combos, what it take to beat you. They envy your motor and your technical expertise if you've got it. I only use nos on the street and only when I need it. I do what it takes to win, and I don't care about someone opinion, I still won. But get caught with out it on or run out, :sad: :sad:
In a blatantly direct and purely elementary answer to your question without getting into highly technical specifics of this modification and its phenomenal results, ---I WIN !!! :p: :p: :p: :lol: :lol: :jester :hat :jester
Ofcourse this stuff doesn't get any repect at the track if its the only mod on your car. Why would it? People want to go fast and they want to know your secrets, cam specs, pistons & crank combos, what it take to beat you. They envy your motor and your technical expertise if you've got it. I only use nos on the street and only when I need it. I do what it takes to win, and I don't care about someone opinion, I still won. But get caught with out it on or run out, :sad: :sad:
Drifting
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From: Miami, Fl
Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (TCSF)
About a year ago pictures of a car in which a nitrous bottle exploded were posted here. The bottle exploded when the car was garaged. The car was totalled.
Let's assume a nitrous bottle is mounted in the center trunk compartment, which normally gets nice and hot due to the proximity of the exhaust system. Lets further assume you're on an all day trip to Las Vegas in the summer and you've got a black on black car. Maybe you're using some kind of bottle heater, and it malfunctions.
I'm not sure I like those odds.
Sure I paid a lot more, but I don't have a time bomb in the back of my car and the magic doesn't last only a minute. If I run into some Turbo Carrera on the way to Vegas, the fun may last a lot longer than just a couple of minutes.
NOS boys! NOS boys! Whatcha gonna do when it runs out on you! :cry:cry:cry
[Modified by TCSF, 1:00 AM 11/17/2001]
Let's assume a nitrous bottle is mounted in the center trunk compartment, which normally gets nice and hot due to the proximity of the exhaust system. Lets further assume you're on an all day trip to Las Vegas in the summer and you've got a black on black car. Maybe you're using some kind of bottle heater, and it malfunctions.
I'm not sure I like those odds.
Sure I paid a lot more, but I don't have a time bomb in the back of my car and the magic doesn't last only a minute. If I run into some Turbo Carrera on the way to Vegas, the fun may last a lot longer than just a couple of minutes.
NOS boys! NOS boys! Whatcha gonna do when it runs out on you! :cry:cry:cry
[Modified by TCSF, 1:00 AM 11/17/2001]
Drifting
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From: Arroyo Grande CA
Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Joel Fromkin)
Point accepted. Any technology is dangerous if set up wrong.
But the basic problem still remains, nitrous is temporary. There's more to life than the 1/4 mile and a bottle of nitrous isn't enough where you've got many miles of thinly trafficked beautiful mountainous highways where nobody is going to stop and wait while you change out bottles. :seeya
I guess if you can't have the power all the time, having it some of the time is better than nothing. Then there's the folks that can afford to add nitrous to already outrageous power plants.
I'll admit I'm chicken when it comes to adding nitrous to an engine I cannot afford to replace. Otherwise, maybe I'd think differently.
But the basic problem still remains, nitrous is temporary. There's more to life than the 1/4 mile and a bottle of nitrous isn't enough where you've got many miles of thinly trafficked beautiful mountainous highways where nobody is going to stop and wait while you change out bottles. :seeya
I guess if you can't have the power all the time, having it some of the time is better than nothing. Then there's the folks that can afford to add nitrous to already outrageous power plants.
I'll admit I'm chicken when it comes to adding nitrous to an engine I cannot afford to replace. Otherwise, maybe I'd think differently.