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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 12:13 PM
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Not for me,, but why not. If you like it, use it...Guess i'm a little selfish, i want it there all the time.. :yesnod:
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 12:31 PM
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I know I'll get flamed for this, but whatever......hehe.....I have my opinion, so might as well share it, since the topic was brought up.

Plain and simple: Nitrous (not NOS....that's a company.....it's "N20" or "Nitrous") is not available all the time. When you have a turbo, supercharger, heads/cam, etc, the car is made faster by something physical on the car (a part bolted on to the engine), which is available all the time, anytime, and makes power using natural air (be it forced, or N/A). Nitrous on the other is not there all the time, and that's a big deal to me. I almost view a Nitrous car as a car that's acting like it can run fast times, when in reality when it runs with the same air as everyone else, it's just not that fast. The immediate rebuttal is "well, a turbo isn't making the car run on the same air as everyone else".....not true in my opinion. It's still NATURAL air (be it forced or not...who cares? It's there all the time, and it's the same air you and I breathe....it's EQUAL). Blowers are just using normal air, and they're available ALL THE TIME. Nitrous on a street car to me is like trying to make your car compete in a league it's not really in (sure it can run the times a few times, but it's not NATURALLY.....i.e. using regular air in any way you want). Again though, this is just my opinion, and you are using nitrous and having fun with it, more power to ya! :) Just wanted to share my thoughts.

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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 02:15 PM
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Default Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Ryan Bell)

Gee Ryan... When you have a Viper, you don't really NEED something bolted onto the car to make it fast.
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 03:10 PM
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Dude, Vipers aren't THAT fast out of the factory. :confused:
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 03:37 PM
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My .02 is in my sig. I never run out on one bottle :D

As for it being a "cheap" mod, setting it up properly, tuning for the best A/F ratio on the hose, yet still have a proper A/F on just the motor, meeting NHRA safety rules because you can run 11's... It's not a cheap mod. It can in fact be quite expensive once you truly have it refined and working at optimum. The technical expertise to select proper hose size to flow the maximum amount of N2O, the dyno's necessary to make sure you are being kind to the motor during the tuning/racing process, proper adjustment of a progressive controller to assure top tire hookup. You are in fact talking quite a bit of money, time, experimentation and expertise to truly make a n2o setup work consistently, in particular, when bracket racing. It's not just a matter of flipping the switch, and mashing the gas.

Hanging the hose, flipping the switch, and mashing the gas is the quickest way to a new crate motor.

Oh yeah, bring on the vipers :D :smash:

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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 03:45 PM
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Default Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous?

What exactly is proved by using Nitrous?

What exactly is proved by using a single turbo?

What exactly is proved by using twin turbos?

What exactly is proved by using a Supercharger?

What exactly is proved by using anything?

POWER!!!

It doesn't matter what kind of power adder you are using. It's another way of adding more power to your car.

... and for those that say NOS is cheating, well then having a car w/ a turbo or SC isn't? NOS is the best bang for the buck when it comes to power.

Oh it's true, it's true.

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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 04:09 PM
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... and for those that say NOS is cheating, well then having a car w/ a turbo or SC isn't?
Actually, a Turbo or S/C is displacement in my opinion... .02
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 04:29 PM
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Default Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Purerock105)

Wow! Lessons learned. Nitrous=FUN. I can buy that :)

Run What You Brung...Very popular sentiment, makes sense too. :cool:

Nitrous...It's not for everybody. Different strokes for different folks. :D

First statement says it all "Nitrous=FUN" :D :D :D

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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 04:46 PM
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Hey! I use Nitrous because it calms my patients and makes the dental visit more enjoyable for them. Am I fake for doing that? Can you say "Yes, the filling went smoothly, but I was on nitrous, so it doesn't really count." ? I am not ashamed at all to admit that I use nitrous!
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 04:56 PM
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Hey! I use Nitrous because it calms my patients and makes the dental visit more enjoyable for them. Am I fake for doing that? Can you say "Yes, the filling went smoothly, but I was on nitrous, so it doesn't really count." ? I am not ashamed at all to admit that I use nitrous!
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 05:18 PM
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Default Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (J99FRC)

I am not using nitrous currently on my Z. Not to say that I won't, just not yet.

I have been a street racer for a number of years (about 15). We have had it out in the open, and we have had kits hidden. You know, racing is always a game of liars. And its up to you to try and figure out what the other guy is up to before he takes your money.

Example, one of the cars we used to take all over the Hosuston area was a 68 Camaro with a 406SBC. It ran 12.20s to 11.80 on motor. With a single 250HP plate 12 yrs ago it ran 10.40s. DO THE MATH...

It wasn't hidden, but there have been a few under the manifold fogger setups that have made their way onto various engines :)

I understand the sentiment of those who go pay $7K for a tuner pkg to get you the same HP that some punk kid gets at the touch of a button on his stock Firebird or Camaro. And if he shows you his taillights, thats even more painful.

But the argument is the same as a Stock motor vs a mod'd motor or radials vs slicks or any other number of debates I hear every weekend. If you're afraid the other guy is going to beat you keep your car home in the garge and wax it with Zaino, and drive it like most of the guys who I see driving Vettes do. When you pull up next to them, they slow down and break for the next U-Turn

As for me, hey I will race anyone. I may win, and I may lose, but I will get my licks in. And if some lies and sprays me when their car "doesn't have gas", thats ok. Cause at some point what goes around comes around, and "it will be my duty to crack that booty".

But if I have it, and I tell you, and we race. Then what do I prove if I race you. I just proved that I cracked your A**.
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 05:50 PM
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Default Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (J-Rod)

You've got to be kidding me?

bwahahahha...

I'd say others have covered what needs to be said.

I have a filter, just like "anyone else can add." I guess I'm cheating...
:rolleyes:
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 09:27 PM
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What's proved by having a V8 in a Vette rather than a V6?
What's proved is than all things being equal a V8 is faster. Same with any power adder. Now I know that some believe that there is a hierarchy of power adders. Special heads, intake, exhausts, are better than a supercharger. A supercharger is better than nitrous.
Baloney.
Some people want a fast car. I do. It does not interest others. I understand. Some want fancy cars. I don't but I understand. It's all an "everyone is different" thing.
Why make different colors for Vettes? Get it?
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 10:08 PM
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Why do I use N2O? Because it's cheap, fun, and I can use it when I want to use it. Sure, I could spend almost 10x that amount and have almost the same amount of peak power (NA to N2O will never have the same kind of average power), and the power will always be there, but is a daily driver car really worth spending that much money on and how often do I really need that much power anyway? What does N2O prove? The same thing that using a 383ci/396ci/427ci motor to beat a 346ci motor proves, that you're faster.

I don't know about you guys, but people are always more impressed to hear my car has nitrous than my car is a stroker. Nitrous just sounds faster.

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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 10:12 PM
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Not a big fan of NOS but bring on the superchargers, and turbo's YEAH!!!! :cool: :cool:
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 10:17 PM
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Default Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Purerock105)

medical grade makes ya feel REAL REAL good when ya inhale it :)

that is what it proves ;)

thanks
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 10:43 PM
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:nopity When it's a :boxing if you lose, you lose. If nitrous is not allowed and someone uses it, then it's cheating.

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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 11:43 PM
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Hey But head :eek: LOL Sorry BUT I had to do it. I have NOS on my car for one reason and one reason only TO GO FAST :eek: :eek: It's not cheating it is just an easy way to go fast. QUOTE FROM YOU At the track, most people know who's on Nitrous and who's not. It's usually not a mystery. Ya only because you see a mostly STOCK car going in the 11's :smash: :smash: People that talk s**t about NOS only do because they don't have the ***** to run it :reddevil I have over 82,000 miles on my car with over 20 bottles through it with not one problem :D :D :D :D :D That is my thought on this subject :cheers:
NOS only works when you can find your bottle.. Right Dave :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Old Nov 16, 2001 | 12:13 AM
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Default Re: What exactly is proved by using Nitrous? (Ryan Bell)

I know I'll get flamed for this, but whatever......hehe.....I have my opinion, so might as well share it, since the topic was brought up.

Plain and simple: Nitrous (not NOS....that's a company.....it's "N20" or "Nitrous") is not available all the time. When you have a turbo, supercharger, heads/cam, etc, the car is made faster by something physical on the car (a part bolted on to the engine), which is available all the time, anytime, and makes power using natural air (be it forced, or N/A). Nitrous on the other is not there all the time, and that's a big deal to me. I almost view a Nitrous car as a car that's acting like it can run fast times, when in reality when it runs with the same air as everyone else, it's just not that fast. The immediate rebuttal is "well, a turbo isn't making the car run on the same air as everyone else".....not true in my opinion. It's still NATURAL air (be it forced or not...who cares? It's there all the time, and it's the same air you and I breathe....it's EQUAL). Blowers are just using normal air, and they're available ALL THE TIME. Nitrous on a street car to me is like trying to make your car compete in a league it's not really in (sure it can run the times a few times, but it's not NATURALLY.....i.e. using regular air in any way you want). Again though, this is just my opinion, and you are using nitrous and having fun with it, more power to ya! :) Just wanted to share my thoughts.

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Old Nov 16, 2001 | 12:22 AM
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I LOVE THE STUFF!!!! I'm hooked on it! I got ot go to rehabe. I went thru about 100 bottles on my 2000(got rid of it with 60,000. miles on it)and now it's on mt 02. 11:80 on the run craps. Now thats fun :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :crazy: :crazy: :seeya


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