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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Sounds like you have air in the system!

It is working and then when the pocket comes around you end up with a higher temp then comes the water and your at your lower temp!

Check your fluids to see if they are full to the top!

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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by madmatt9471
Sounds like you have air in the system!

It is working and then when the pocket comes around you end up with a higher temp then comes the water and your at your lower temp!

Check your fluids to see if they are full to the top!

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No Matt I took care of that problem this morning. I did the routine and resivoir is filled right to the base. I just wished someone new what thermostat comes in the GM pump for the 2004s. Ive read somewhere it may have a 212 t-stat in it which explains what is doing or its a 195 that is way off. Its not a big job to change it so I think Im gonna get the 187 and see what happens......
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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It has a new belt it was changed when the pump was. I dont think its the temp sensor because, Normally when those go bad they will peg and you will get the overheating bells. It cant be the pump because if it was it wouldnt be pumping water and it would over heat completely or leak allover the place like my old one did. So my guess is as previously stated its just a higher temp t-stat and therefore an increase in temps. It still hasnt gotton hot enough to even kick on the cooling fans.
If all you saw was an increase in temp ... say the car ran a steady 210 degrees ... then I'd agree ... but the temp swing you initially posted is DEFINATELY not normal ... swinging between 196 to 210. And remember, the coolant is only measuered at one point in the system ... who knows what is happening in the otehr head if you are seeing this problem.

A temp swing is usually caused by one of a few things ... one is air/water passing the sensor ... you say you've eliminated that ... the pump is not flowing properly (surging) ... or the thermo is not working properly.

Try the "old" thermo back in the engine ... see if that gives you a consistent temp. If it doesn't, its either got to be the sensor or the water pump.

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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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If all you saw was an increase in temp ... say the car ran a steady 210 degrees ... then I'd agree ... but the temp swing you initially posted is DEFINATELY not normal ... swinging between 196 to 210. And remember, the coolant is only measuered at one point in the system ... who knows what is happening in the otehr head if you are seeing this problem.

A temp swing is usually caused by one of a few things ... one is air/water passing the sensor ... you say you've eliminated that ... the pump is not flowing properly (surging) ... or the thermo is not working properly.

Try the "old" thermo back in the engine ... see if that gives you a consistent temp. If it doesn't, its either got to be the sensor or the water pump.

Well I got a hold of my cousin who has been a GM wrench . He told me its not the water pump because I have flow through all my hoses after the t-stat opens. He said its not the temp sensor because that would bounce all over the place and set my dic off as overheating. So that leaves the t-stat. He said that is more than likley my problem. He said that it sounds like it was calibrated wrong or not opening and closing properly. Sticking........
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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Can't argue with your cousin ....

Try a new thermostat ... it certainly can't hurt ... please post your results ... we can all learn from this ... Thanks,

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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 02:55 AM
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No Matt I took care of that problem this morning. I did the routine and resivoir is filled right to the base. I just wished someone new what thermostat comes in the GM pump for the 2004s. Ive read somewhere it may have a 212 t-stat in it which explains what is doing or its a 195 that is way off. Its not a big job to change it so I think Im gonna get the 187 and see what happens......
Just installed a stock thermo in my 03Z this year. They have an 86 degree C thermostat. Equates to about 186 degrees opening temperature Vs wide open temp.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 03:28 AM
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mine does the same thing 210-215 at idle at lights and then drops to 190 on the freeway.

if i turn on the a/c temps stay 200 ish at lights and drops like a rock to 189 0n the freeway.

this sure sounds normal to me considering the high fan settings and my 187 t stat

what you guys think?
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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mine does the same thing 210-215 at idle at lights and then drops to 190 on the freeway.

if i turn on the a/c temps stay 200 ish at lights and drops like a rock to 189 0n the freeway.

this sure sounds normal to me considering the high fan settings and my 187 t stat

what you guys think?
Thats the way there suppose to work, Thats exactly how mine ran with the old pump. since the new one was put in it will go to 208 and then drop to 196 and go back up to 208 and drop again this is all going down the freeway . At freeway speeds it should sustain temp as yours does, not go back and forth as mine does..........
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Update: Seem to have fixed problem. Drained coolent put new 186 degree thermo in. And in 75 degree heat dosnt run over 198 get into stop and go traffic jumps to 210-214 and the minute i get out of stop and go drops right back down to 198.
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Originally Posted by Slick Rick
They couldnt reuse the old thermo, The dealer upgraded to the newer GM 2004 pump. Thermo is seperate from the housing........
Sounds like the LS2 style pump also. It has the same thermostat housing arrangement and will bolt right up to an LS1/6.

The temp variations you're experiencing in your original post are normal. I have experienced these minor variations on the highway for years and it depends mainly on ambient temps being experienced at the particular point in time/location you're driving.

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