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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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I have a fairly new Valentine One detector (less than 1 yr old)....while driving thru WI...I passed at least 4 state troopers and my detector did not go off once. This also happened a few months ago while driving thru WI...not one beep!

Does any one know if WI has new radar that a year old V1 wouldn't detect?

OR, could it be their radar is off and they are waiting to turn it on at the last minute? (They are definitely tracking for speeders and not napping because I did see a couple people get pulled over).
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It's possible they were just sitting there. They could have been using laser too.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Most likely they are using "instant on" radar guns .... most state patrols use these. The CHP has been switching to these over the last couple of years.

Basically the officer uses his eyes to detect a vehicle that is "speeding" ... he then fires the "gun" and captures the data about the speeder ... once the gun captures the data it stops transmitting radio signals until the officer asks it to capture the next speeder, and it is those radio transmissions that your detector is looking for.

This is the LEO answer to radar detectors .... they can sit on a highway giving off no clue they are there until they see you come ripping up on them ... they hit you with the "gun" ... gotcha ... and leave little evidence they are in the area for other radar detectors to pick up ... just a quick blast of the gun and they are done.

That's why you need to be VERY sensitive if your detector picks up a signal, especially in rural areas .... if your detector gives you a "hint" that there are radio signals on the K-band frequency, SLOW DOWN, there is a chance there is a cop with an "instant on" gun in the area.

Unfortunately in less rural (metropolitan) areas there are so many devices on the same frequencies (especially X-Band), like door openers at your local WallMart/Safeway, that deciding what are "valid" hits becomes much more difficult.

Bottom line, "speeding" is just becoming that much more difficult ... I look at your average LEO as a tax collector equipped with a gun ... you speed ... pay the tax .....

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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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Even if they are using instant on, his V1 should have gone off briefly each time they used the radar.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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This is why I always drive with a front door at least a half mile ahead of me,when the radar clocks him, my passport picks it up. Just wait for someone to pass you let them get half mile ahead then match his speed,just watch behind you.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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I've had the same experience, but not just with the WI troopers. Sheriffs and cops also. I've had them in view for a long while and passed without a single beep. They are probably selectively shooting. Or maybe it's lunch time. Or they could be part of a tag and bag, where they put a guy on an overpass shooting the gun and he radios to the squads waiting down the road. I've seen a number of those in WI. Got shot by a laser myself (wonder why he picked me out of the crowd???) in one, but I wasn't speeding. That's where the radar detector turns into a ticket indicator.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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I think the real reason is there is SO MUCH traffic they spectate till an obvious "rage" incident or similar unsafe act gets committed. I spent 2 weeks in WI this summer and had the same experiance. It seemed as tho they deemed speeding "no big deal". Semi's and tandem dumpers do 80 or more in heavy traffic on I-94 all day. The only time the LEO's looked busy was near the Dells and at the Madison 90-94 split. My brother has an M3 and he had it at 140 heading east toward Milwaukee at 7pm. A Suburban was trying to keep up.
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If you were northbound on I-94 from Chicago, they use instant on radar and laser. They are picky about who the check too, to make sure they get someone. I wont drive over 71 through tat section of road, and I am on it every weekend, seeing all the cars pulled over.

If you didnt get clocked, just consider yourself lucky. Your only hope is they clock the car in front of you or next to you, because they have you clocked when your detector goes off, and it's too late.
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Even if they are using instant on, his V1 should have gone off briefly each time they used the radar.
They ain't stupid ... they wait several minutes between using the gun, and they find places to sit (like the bottom of a hill) where the signal they are sending out is not easily picked up by detectors beyond the hill.

Radar detectors are useful, but they don't guarantee you will get away with speeding .....

I flew into Chicago on business a while ago ... and the plane out of SFO was WAY late ... so when I arrive my last connection into Madison WI was long gone. UAL offers me a free hotel in Chicago but the morning flight into Madison will get me there much later than the start of the meeting I'm flying in for.

So I grab a rental car and head off to Madison. At first I'm doing like 65 MPH with the cruise control set, but after an hour or so (it is now like 2 in the morning) I'm falling asleep and there is no one on the road ...

So I'm bumping up the cruise control from 65 to 70 to 80 to finally 90. I come over a hill, it is pitch dark in every direction (I'm somewhere in the middle of Wisconsin farm country) and suddenly I've got cop lights behind me .....

He was a local sheriff ... sitting to the side of the road, and he had me nailed with his radar gun. He pulls me over, sees my out of state drivers license, and tells me he's taking me to jail unless I can pay the fine on the spot .... I ive him my VISA card, he radios in my VISA card data ... I am not kidding .... and as I'm signing the VISA card receipt and ticket this MF local yocal has the audacity to tell me to "protect" my credit card data ... after he has just broadcast my info across who knows how many counties ....

Again, as far as I'm concerned ... LEOs are tax collectors protected by a gun and a badge ....


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Originally Posted by 1999 Vette
I have a fairly new Valentine One detector (less than 1 yr old)....while driving thru WI...I passed at least 4 state troopers and my detector did not go off once. This also happened a few months ago while driving thru WI...not one beep!

Does any one know if WI has new radar that a year old V1 wouldn't detect?

OR, could it be their radar is off and they are waiting to turn it on at the last minute? (They are definitely tracking for speeders and not napping because I did see a couple people get pulled over).
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I would say the first thing you should check is your version on your v1
look at the serial and plug it in on the v1 website
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Originally Posted by 90Z51
It's possible they were just sitting there. They could have been using laser too.
Probably laser gun.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackZ06

So I'm bumping up the cruise control from 65 to 70 to 80 to finally 90. I come over a hill, it is pitch dark in every direction (I'm somewhere in the middle of Wisconsin farm country) and suddenly I've got cop lights behind me .....



So tell me again why you would speed anywhere into something blind?

First rule of speed club never speed at the top of a hill

Second rule never be the lone car with a large distance between you and cars behind you.

third rule... i can not tell you
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackZ06
Most likely they are using "instant on" radar guns .... most state patrols use these. The CHP has been switching to these over the last couple of years.

Basically the officer uses his eyes to detect a vehicle that is "speeding" ... he then fires the "gun" and captures the data about the speeder ... once the gun captures the data it stops transmitting radio signals until the officer asks it to capture the next speeder, and it is those radio transmissions that your detector is looking for.

This is the LEO answer to radar detectors .... they can sit on a highway giving off no clue they are there until they see you come ripping up on them ... they hit you with the "gun" ... gotcha ... and leave little evidence they are in the area for other radar detectors to pick up ... just a quick blast of the gun and they are done.

That's why you need to be VERY sensitive if your detector picks up a signal, especially in rural areas .... if your detector gives you a "hint" that there are radio signals on the K-band frequency, SLOW DOWN, there is a chance there is a cop with an "instant on" gun in the area.

Unfortunately in less rural (metropolitan) areas there are so many devices on the same frequencies (especially X-Band), like door openers at your local WallMart/Safeway, that deciding what are "valid" hits becomes much more difficult.

Bottom line, "speeding" is just becoming that much more difficult ... I look at your average LEO as a tax collector equipped with a gun ... you speed ... pay the tax .....

Good thing my detector detects instant on radars
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WI Troopers mostly use instant-on Ka radar.

Some of the local polices around here use laser a lot, but I've not seen much laser from the troopers.

If you saw several of them staged together and pulling people over, it is also possible they were also using aircraft to time cars between road markings and determine speed that way. They don't do it often, but I have seen them do it.


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Originally Posted by RyanR0101
I've had the same experience, but not just with the WI troopers. Sheriffs and cops also. I've had them in view for a long while and passed without a single beep. They are probably selectively shooting. Or maybe it's lunch time. Or they could be part of a tag and bag, where they put a guy on an overpass shooting the gun and he radios to the squads waiting down the road. I've seen a number of those in WI. Got shot by a laser myself (wonder why he picked me out of the crowd???) in one, but I wasn't speeding. That's where the radar detector turns into a ticket indicator.
same story here a few days ago, but in a much smaller town.
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I saw a cop point the bottom of his thermos at traffic and laugh to his partner as they hit their brakes.
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Maybe you weren't speeding...
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Originally Posted by 11sec_C5Z51
Good thing my detector detects instant on radars

And if it is not ON .... how does the detector "detect" it .....

If you think your detector is protecting you from "instant on" radar ... you are living in a dream world .....

Usually the first time a radar detector tells you an "instant on" gun is in use is when it just clocked you ....

Hello , cops are stupid, but they are smarter than you are ... they can/will beat you at this game ..... "instant on" radar is very difficult to beat ....
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackZ06
And if it is not ON .... how does the detector "detect" it .....

If you think your detector is protecting you from "instant on" radar ... you are living in a dream world .....

Usually the first time a radar detector tells you an "instant on" gun is in use is when it just clocked you ....

Hello , cops are stupid, but they are smarter than you are ... they can/will beat you at this game ..... "instant on" radar is very difficult to beat ....
SO JUST BEAT EM IN COURT!
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"If you were northbound on I-94 from Chicago, they use instant on radar and laser. They are picky about who the check too, to make sure they get someone. "

Yes, I would agree... Instant on radar by the troopers. Radar detectors are an "aid" not a substitute for "paying attention".
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