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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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I found my self in an argument with a friend who has an 06 dodge charger R/T. We were arguing about braking distance. He claims that he can stop just as fast if not faster than my car. Assuming that the "newness" factor of the brakes wasn't taken into account, which car could stop faster (primarily 60-0 ft)? I'm curious about my 99 vette in particular.

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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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I would seriously doubt that he could stop as quick. C5's are sportcars with excellant brakes, large tires, and low weight.
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 11:51 PM
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I don't see how he could stop 1000 pounds more of mass faster than an already performance oriented car like mine could.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by vincentjames501
I don't see how he could stop 1000 pounds more of mass faster than an already performance oriented car like mine could.
I would bet on your car in a heartbeat.

BTW, it's "brakes" not "breaks".
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 03:11 AM
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They stop faster because they go slower. j/k
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 05:18 AM
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This site says 121 ft on charger
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=107266

This site says 128 ft on charger
http://www.officer.com/web/online/Industry-Business-Wire/All-new-2006-Dodge-Charger-and-Dodge-Magnum-Police-Vehicles-Excel-at-Michigan-State-Police-Performance-Requirements/9$26553

This site says 125 ft on charger
http://www.modernracer.com/dodgechargerrt.html

I'd say it is pretty safe to say a charger r/t can brake from 60-0 in the 120 foot range. I can show you a million webpages that will say an SRT will do it in 110 ft.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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Stopping distance has more to do with FRESH brake fluid ( with in 30 days old) agressive brake pads, ( dont attempt hard braking with ceramics) and the front tires.

Wider and sticker front tires will stop the car quicker then Run Flats and hard rubber tires.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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I'll bump my stupid spelling error. No body ever answered the question though. What is it safe to say a 99 FRC will do 60-0 in?
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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He can stop faster if he runs into a brick wall , but I think thats about the only way.
Next he'll believe that he can go faster to 60.

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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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That metgo person above us with the post of the 60-0 ft is the owner of the charger. He must of joined the forum to say basically all of you guys are stupid.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by vincentjames501
That metgo person above us with the post of the 60-0 ft is the owner of the charger. He must of joined the forum to say basically all of you guys are stupid.


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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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I guess your buddy was down to his last argumentative option Vette vs Charger was its stopping distance...

I saw a survey that came to the conclusion that seagulls prefer to crap much more on Dodge Chargers vs Vettes also. Even the birds know which car to crap on....

I had a new Charger zoom up next to me the other day, pace me wanting a reaction from me, but since my windows are limo tinted he had no clue I was laughing and pointing at him...Then I blew a cloud of nitrous purge and he slowed back down for some reason...My 175 shot was just waiting....

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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by vincentjames501
That metgo person above us with the post of the 60-0 ft is the owner of the charger. He must of joined the forum to say basically all of you guys are stupid.
Well I'm a Vette guy. I have a 99FRC as well, but I'm not going to be conceited about my car. Go and perform a search. SRT8's do brake well for a big car. I tend to trust Motor Trend, and they show the SRT8 300C stopping from 60-0 in 113 feet. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ecs_price.html

Is there a conspiracy between Motor Trend, Edmunds, Modern Racer, and others? Let's not fall into this mentality that our C5's are the end-all be-all to performance. That SRT8 Charger will be very close to a 99 FRC in braking. It's not a slam on the C5, but a testament to the job they did in designing the SRT8. I would encourage the owner to go and try it in a test(I hope this won't be considered to be condoning street racing).

Edit: I read someone's post referring to the SRT and thought the original post was about it, which is why I referred to the SRT in my post above. That said, the SRT doesn't seem to stop much if any better than the RT, so I will leave my original comments intact.

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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by briann510
I had a new Charger zoom up next to me the other day, pace me wanting a reaction from me, but since my windows are limo tinted he had no clue I was laughing and pointing at him...Then I blew a cloud of nitrous purge and he slowed back down for some reason...My 175 shot was just waiting....
Did you even need the nitrous!!??
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by kilrb
Did you even need the nitrous!!??
With heads/cam/exhaust, not in the least...
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Stopping distance has more to do with FRESH brake fluid ( with in 30 days old) agressive brake pads, ( dont attempt hard braking with ceramics) and the front tires.

Wider and sticker front tires will stop the car quicker then Run Flats and hard rubber tires.
I don't think the brake fluid would make much difference but the tire size and compound vs vehicle weight are all that matters.

Almost all cars are capable of locking up the wheels ONCE! So if you look at it from that perspective, if both cars have the wheels locked, what would make one stop faster than the other? Tires, compound and to a small degree, the weight distribution of the vehicle.

High performance brakes make the difference when you need to stop REPEATEDLY. Your average daily driver will stop once with cool pads and rotors, then exhibit brake fade in subsequent attempts. The pads and rotors will no longer be able to lock up the wheels under load.

Having said that, if the SRT has big sticky tires on it, it is very possible it has a braking distance similar to the C5. Put the same compound tires on both and the C5 is sure to win on the first stop. On any subsequent stops, my guess is it wouldn't be a contest anymore. The added weight of the SRT would take its toll on the pads and rotors overheating them and rendering them useless.

I tried to find a specification on the C5 and the only one said 125ft. But it was a site trying to sell brake kits so I'm sure it was exaggerated to the worst.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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I'd hope it's not 125ft.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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1. That 125' distance was measured using run-flat tires that were a compromise in 1999 (they're not called Flintstones for nothing). A better example would be the '01 Z06 stopping distance: C&D tested the Z06 stopping distance from 70 mph at 152 feet, pretty darned good (for some reason I couldn't get the specs from 60-0).

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Breaking distance
I've heard of C5/Z06 Corvettes going well over 100,000 miles before they break...
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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I've heard of C5/Z06 Corvettes going well over 100,000 miles before they break...

Yeh Yeh Yeh. My bad. I'm really not that dumb
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