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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
Hmmmm. So, you would rather just have someone tell you to change a part on your car, than cover all the bases to make sure it's bad. Ok, well..... I guess to each his own. I just like knowning what's in the kool aid before I drink it.
Lucky131969,

You're missing a critical point here ...

You're right, diagnosing a problem before throwing parts at it is the RIGHT way to do it. Both Bill Curlee and Bill Dearborn would agree with you, and in fact if you go look at some of their past posts, you will see they VERY frequently post the diagnostic steps from the service manuals to help members isolate a problem. I know for a fact that Bill Curlee has not only spent many hours on the phone with forum members helping with troubleshooting, he has even gotten in his car and visited other members to help in diagnosing a problem.

BUT, the part you are missing about the two Bills is EXPERIENCE ....

Both know, after helping troubleshoot countless problems with the EBCM on many many cars, that a C1214 in the EBCM, AND LACKING OTHER CODES, is the "kiss of death" ......

An EBCM with a ground problem virtually ALWAYS throws many codes - wheel speed sensor codes - other sensor codes - basically a random collection of problems. Usually when you see that condition, you start by looking at the grounds and connections, and then continue the diagnosis from there if that doesn't resolve the problem. A "standalone" C1214 ..... that's where http://www.absfixer.com makes his bread and butter. It is a common failure in the C5 EBCM. Why spend hours "diagnosing" a problem that EXPERIENCE tells you is a failed EBCM

Bring your experience and knowledge to the table and we can all learn from each other. I don't listen to either Bill just because they have a bunch of posts here ..... I listen to them because my experience is that they ABSOLUTELY know what they are talking about.

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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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I agree with BLACKZ06
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
There can be other things wrong in the system that will set this code. There are other things to check per the service manual. It may very well be a EBTCM, but there are things to check to be absolutely sure.
Lucky,

If your post was edited as above it would be well accepted. In it's original form, you end up trying to bash someone who has helped many a forum member (myself included). You can't win that battle.
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