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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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Hey guys,

I have read the procedure on how to do a C5 cam and have done many a cam on older corvettes. For those who did their own cam on a C5, for above average mechanic(s), what is a true estimate of how long it takes?

Goal is to do cam, heads / headers, and new stall converter as funds come available. Cam being the slowest I am going to tackle it first. I would be happy to achieve 400+ hp / 450+ torque rw on an A4. This is a weekend / trip cruising machine only. Looking for biggest gains on bottom end, 0-60 mph.

How far can I stretch the old stock valve springs without issues? i.e change the heads later but go ahead to a larger cam now. 51K miles

I am into scarring old folks and kids and would love to have input on going to a 112LSA on the cam. Anyone unhappy with that much lope? My 82 has a 110LSA and dang it sounds wicked to only have maybe 300/300 hp / torq.

Thanks in advance! I appreciate all you guys with the help through the years!

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Originally Posted by gr8vet
Hey guys,

I have read the procedure on how to do a C5 cam and have done many a cam on older corvettes. For those who did their own cam on a C5, for above average mechanic(s), what is a true estimate of how long it takes?

Goal is to do cam, heads / headers, and new stall converter as funds come available. Cam being the slowest I am going to tackle it first. I would be happy to achieve 400+ hp / 450+ torque rw on an A4. This is a weekend / trip cruising machine only. Looking for biggest gains on bottom end, 0-60 mph.

How far can I stretch the old stock valve springs without issues? i.e change the heads later but go ahead to a larger cam now. 51K miles

I am into scarring old folks and kids and would love to have input on going to a 112LSA on the cam. Anyone unhappy with that much lope? My 82 has a 110LSA and dang it sounds wicked to only have maybe 300/300 hp / torq.

Thanks in advance! I appreciate all you guys with the help through the years!

tt
You cant do anything cam wise with the stock springs, stockers are marginal at best with a stock cam.

If your planning to eventually do cam/heads/headers i would save up and do all three at once, it is much easier to swap head and cams at the same time vs swapping in just the cam, save yourself all the effort and having to pay for multiple tunes and do that all at once.

Before you go putting in a big cam, your gonna need the stall converter, youll be miserable in an A4 with a big cam and no stall,

My advice, do a stall and rear gears first (i prefer 3.73's in A4 Cars)

After stall and gears do your heads/cam/headers all at once, youll be glad you did

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You cant do anything cam wise with the stock springs, stockers are marginal at best with a stock cam.

If your planning to eventually do cam/heads/headers i would save up and do all three at once, it is much easier to swap head and cams at the same time vs swapping in just the cam, save yourself all the effort and having to pay for multiple tunes and do that all at once.

Before you go putting in a big cam, your gonna need the stall converter, youll be miserable in an A4 with a big cam and no stall,

My advice, do a stall and rear gears first (i prefer 3.73's in A4 Cars)

After stall and gears do your heads/cam/headers all at once, youll be glad you did

i would change the springs as well. How many miles on the car?
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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Heard the same thing from my Tuner, upgrade the springs.
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Since lifters are under the heads, less risk to do the cam when the lifters/heads are off if you plan to anyhow. I usually work on the car a couple hours after work and weekend between the usual household chores. I typically plan two weeks for these types of things so I don't get rushed. Setting up the cam, measuring for pushrods, set rocker wipe, etc. take time.
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How will the driveabily be after Heads/Cam/Headers/rear gears....
Not so much with respect to gas mileage, but for stop and go traffic and short runs about town...
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I know when funds are a issue it is hard to wait. The best thing you can do on your car is 3.73 gears and a 3400 or 3600 stall. This will wake up your car for now. Then do cam & heads & U/D pully. Next do headers to get the benefit of cam & heads. Don't overlook cost of gaskets, ported oil pump, timing chain, new head bolts, lifters, push rods, and tune. Horse Power don't come cheap. Best of luck. Frank

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Originally Posted by CanadianVetster
How will the driveabily be after Heads/Cam/Headers/rear gears....
Not so much with respect to gas mileage, but for stop and go traffic and short runs about town...
Not a problem with a good tuner.
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Not a problem with a good tuner.
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Originally Posted by jordanfd
The best thing you can do on your car is 2.73 gears and a 3400 or 3600 stall. This will wake up your car for now.
What about if you have a 3.42? 2800 stall?
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Originally Posted by gr8vet
Hey guys,

I have read the procedure on how to do a C5 cam and have done many a cam on older corvettes. For those who did their own cam on a C5, for above average mechanic(s), what is a true estimate of how long it takes?

Goal is to do cam, heads / headers, and new stall converter as funds come available. Cam being the slowest I am going to tackle it first. I would be happy to achieve 400+ hp / 450+ torque rw on an A4. This is a weekend / trip cruising machine only. Looking for biggest gains on bottom end, 0-60 mph.

How far can I stretch the old stock valve springs without issues? i.e change the heads later but go ahead to a larger cam now. 51K miles

I am into scarring old folks and kids and would love to have input on going to a 112LSA on the cam. Anyone unhappy with that much lope? My 82 has a 110LSA and dang it sounds wicked to only have maybe 300/300 hp / torq.

Thanks in advance! I appreciate all you guys with the help through the years!

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I think jordanfd meant 3.73, not 2.72 right? As far as time, one full day for the cam, valve spring and pushrod swap. Sounds like you have a decent tolerance as far as drivability and racket goes. Go with the 112lsa. Just make sure the headers and stall are in there first. Trust me, you will scare the children. Ive made school girls drop their books with my cam and exhaust.
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Originally Posted by eurospec1
You cant do anything cam wise with the stock springs, stockers are marginal at best with a stock cam.

If your planning to eventually do cam/heads/headers i would save up and do all three at once, it is much easier to swap head and cams at the same time vs swapping in just the cam, save yourself all the effort and having to pay for multiple tunes and do that all at once.

Before you go putting in a big cam, your gonna need the stall converter, youll be miserable in an A4 with a big cam and no stall,

My advice, do a stall and rear gears first (i prefer 3.73's in A4 Cars)

After stall and gears do your heads/cam/headers all at once, youll be glad you did
Do this in stages it will pay off in the long run.
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Originally Posted by captcruz
What about if you have a 3.42? 2800 stall?
Great combo if that's what you are looking for. The 3.73 gear and 3400 to 3600 stall with big cam and supporting mods.
is a street killer. Glad you are happy with your setup. Frank
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
Since lifters are under the heads, less risk to do the cam when the lifters/heads are off if you plan to anyhow. I usually work on the car a couple hours after work and weekend between the usual household chores. I typically plan two weeks for these types of things so I don't get rushed. Setting up the cam, measuring for pushrods, set rocker wipe, etc. take time.

I did the same. I took two weeks to do cam, heads, and all the components that go with them. I'm doing the intake next weekend.
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