I know, I could never understand why anyone spends $1700 installed for LT headers for only a max of 30 hp. I ended up buying a used header system to cheapen things up nicely. Glad this worked out for you!

 

So if all headers where the same price of 500 dollars which brand would you pick and why

Just so you know who you are dealing with ssautochrome changed names after they wore out their welcome with xs-power and stone mountain racing. They were in legal hot water with obx whom they were advertising as on ebay.

They do like some other countries do and copy other products and sell them cheaper as knock offs. This is why you do not have gear head customer service. They do not know anything about your car.

I like others appreciate business competition and cheap prices so don't get me wrong. However i do not like ssautochromes tactics or manufacturing or stealing of others designs to make a living.


For your review

http://search.reviews.ebay.com/XSPower

http://search.reviews.ebay.com/ssautochrome

 

Well apparently you leave out the entire story on Teddy--just to prove your point--But if you read more about this kid--you'll see that every project he did to his car--ended up a disaster-- the headers--the tranny--the stall converter--the C6 suspension--the brakes--the rims & tires-- the NOS system--the wideband--the tranny cooler-Bottom line is that all his things pointed to poor workmanship in the installations--And i am NOT exagerating---eventually he wrecked his car probably unrelated but could be from having larger tires in the front than the rear causing the ABS system to not work--Header issue and fire was caused by poor installation-- caused by installer bending A/C lines to make install go quicker instead of taking his time-he even chased a misfire for 3 weeks and swore his installer buddy was an "expert"--eventually a dropped plug with a broken insulator was found--Tranny problem caused by pinched cooler line--- & so on & so on---
Can't blame the headers or the manufacturer for poor work done by so called "expert " installers--His buddies who did the work for free on the side---he got exactly what he paid for--nothing
There is always 2 sides to every story--all you have to do is follow the threads on the forum and it's esay to figure out what went wrong--

 

All i know is what he posted about the problems with the headers. I guess since he was one of the "early installers" he had to show everyone about the a/c line fitment issue that caused a fire in his car. Thanks to him all you guys can make sure to avoid this. He was not the only member to post fire issues. Another member posted burning up an 02 sensor.

The A/c Line fitment issue is a known issue that i suppose he did not know about with these headers lucky him.

I am not trying to win any arguments here. There is nothing to win. I am trying to share information that i would want to know about before making a purchase.

Even ECS says they were a horrible install. Does that mean anything to you? If not so be it but you should at least know about it. There are issues with quality control with this product. You should know about it if you are purchasing. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...&postcount=368


Simple as that. If you do your homework on this company most Vette owners would steer clear from them.

 

How does tstar fit in to the whole ebay header thing?

 

what ??? I didn't know about this.

 

He got a free header and x-pipe out of the deal

Go to search up at the top

Type in tstar and find out lol

People get a cheaper price or did going through him. He was part of the product test team if you will providing information back to the company to change things here and there. Someone called up ssautochrome to complain about a fitting issue and they told him to talk to the corvette mechanic tstar that he could solve the customers problem with their product some how.

This company looks like one of those late night make your website business on ebay deals. This one focuses on poorly "cloned in china" automotive products.

 

This is my final post on this issue--Again you are blaming the headers for what most likely is an installer issue--How on God's green earth can you blame the headers for something when you have no direct knowledge of whether or not they dropped the 02 sensor--pinched a wire--used silicone-stripped it--had an exhaust leak ?? You can't !!! You just rattle off problems to suit yourself to fit into your point--You asssume that all Corvette owners are Starbuck coffee sippin yuppes who have more money than brains--When in reality a corvette owner is exactly the opposite according to GM's marketing research-Most all are mecanically inclined --40 ish and work hard for their money--If it was all about the Bling--then why buy a corvette ? Probably why most owners take offense to the "corvette tax" and to someone who critisizes their purchase decisions----
Last time I checked the forum was a place to discuss issues with our cars without many rules or censorship other than foul language-Type in the words Kragen or Summit or Autozone--you'll get 100's of threads--You can't select one non advertising vendor and pick on him unless you eliminate ALL of them--Then what's the use of the forum ?--This isn't the USSR nor is the forum run by the KGB--There must be some rules and i agree with those--no advertising from a non supporting vendor-But you can't stop anyone from talking about ANY single vendor unless you stop them ALL--which is totaly ridiculous--SSTAR is just a tiny pimple on Kook's or OBX's or Stainlessworks butt --If they aren't worried by a little chatter about their competitors --then why do you ?

 

First of where do you get off assuming what i think most corvette owners are? These guys do not supply all of the information or quirks about the install or their installers statements. THey just say WOO HOO i paid 400 bux for headers and that is all. They are driven at fighting the corvette tax because they can finally afford a corvette so they make extra strides at pointing people at a cheap header with out giving all of the information about the install or quality. That is my opinion on it.

I think you should do more looking at old threads to discover that it is not just a install issue it is a quality control issue. I have posted many links regarding them http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...&postcount=368
and all of the honda guys complaints on the poor turbo stuff this company throws out.

This is just another side of the story to look into. Why give a company free R&D that rips off designs of others just to help give it a market place in the vette world

 

 

nah no popcorn needed

This is not the great debate, im bored yes but thought id give more information than the ops original hey look i saved money post.

 

I don't care what brand these are, I'm not impressed with the HP and Touque stated above given the mods and a tune....
I have a 03 Z06 w/K&N air intake and tune and my numbers beat above WITHOUT ANY HEADERS YET!
I would expect to see more HP & Torque than those posted above for just the time of my labor forget the price or brand!



I'm glad you are happy, but I would be a bit miffed with my tuner at the very least...

Ms Eliz

 

Yes this would be me. My headers fit like crap i emailed the company and they told me to talk to tstar as hes a " master corvette mechanic " This ticked me off because tstar is not going to make my passenger side header fit in my car. I wrote about the experience in here and magicly the company contacted me again asking for my address to send me a new set of headers.

So i guess i cant complain to much really. But i will be the first to say that i kick myself for buying them. Seems like every time i try to save a few bucks it doesnt pay off

 

[QUOTE=knowledgefreak;1563489290]So if all headers were the same price of 500 dollars which brand would you pick and why?

Is this multiple choice or essay?

Humor aside I appreciate the info you are providing. I was just happy to see a cheaper alternative for those who wish to go that route. Of course no one including myself would want to spend $500 on a disaster, but it would be worth it if the product actually works as advertised (typically 20-30 rwhp gain hopefully and certainly no fires ). Seems hit or miss on these particular headers as you have said.
I just would not be willing to pay $1700 for new headers installed for a 30 rwhp gain so I went with the used header solution which has worked fine for me. Even though mine were name brand headers (TPIS), my mech still ended up creating a slight burn on one of my O2 sensors and my starter wire was fried from heat/positioning of the wire in proximity to the headers. Seems even these name brand ones can create issues depending on the experience of the mechanic as well although these ssautochromes seem more problematic on a wider scale. If they work fine for some, hope for the best for you. We should do a total on all those who purchased and list how many had issues compared to those who haven't. Maybe the other threads already did this although I'm not interested enough to check.
Good intel so far!

 

you must have started out with a good one luck you.

http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f115/...6s-only-38736/

 

Not to go off subject, but you installed a filter and tuned a C5 ZO6 and went from 382hp to 505hp?? or is that the same set up with SAE #s or somthing? WOW..

 

i was thinking the same thing

 

 

I'm happy I spent the money and got my American Racing Headers.

This is the official sports car of America guys..... go the cheap route on your neighbor's kid's Honda.

 

LOL! No, the NA tune is the lower numbers. The 505 is with a 100 shot of N2O. Come to think of it, that would be a great tune wouldn't it?