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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave68
The same concern was presented years ago when the Stinger was introduced. In most cases, the reason was simple: Either the airbridge or the clamps or both were not positioned correctly. You may have to fiddle with adjustments a bit, but in the end, your hood should not bulge out. Jim Hall has been designing intakes for C5s for many years. He knows what he is doing, at least from what I've seen as statements he's made in this forum.
Exactly.

We designed the STinger and Venom molds with little clearance left between the bridge and hood liner, but it does fit without any lifting. We have sold literally thousands of our Stingers, and never had an issue.

Occasionally, folks do not adjust the bridge as a final procedure to make sure it fits over the radiator evenly, and this can cause a misfit.

What is cool about the Venom, is that we lowered the Killer Bee Filter down 2" lower to avoid any fitment issues and it outflows the Stinger by 15%.
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dadsturn
Basically you cut out the radiator shield that the filter sits on,
screen it and install a "scoop" on the bottom side over the cutout
to serve as a direct shot to the filter. I believe that it was Dave68's
idea a few years back. It works great, but for a daily driver you need
to watch your filter cleaning more due to the fact that everything
dirty hits it.
You can see the complete procedure here (as well as some others):

http://www.conceptualpolymer.com/corvette_c5_corner.htm

Regarding water concerns: While I agree that you shouldn't drive through muddy streams with this mod, I have driven in torrential downpours (20 minutes or more) and the worst thing that happened was that the Stinger's Warhead filter was a bit damp. Essentially, though, it was very clean. (not too much mud where I live)

You DO have to clean it more often than if you don't have the CAI mod, but I measured a 40 degree F temperature difference between the Stinger with and without my CAI mod. Without the mod, intake air temps exceeded 140F during slow-moving and stop&go driving. That equates to a loss of about 10 HP after the ECU retards timing to prevent engine knock. Even after hitting highway speeds, the non-modded Stinger intake air temps would take a long time to come down. With my mod, the 100 degree temps in the city would plummet to 80 (ambient) degrees within minutes.

Of course, this data applies to my Stinger setup and the killer bee filter being lower may ingest cooler air, so I can't comment on how high the air flowing through it would be. Still, it'd be great if I can pop on a killer bee filter, though I fear its larger size and my shorter air bridge may not go together.......
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave68
You can see the complete procedure here (as well as some others):

http://www.conceptualpolymer.com/corvette_c5_corner.htm

Regarding water concerns: While I agree that you shouldn't drive through muddy streams with this mod, I have driven in torrential downpours (20 minutes or more) and the worst thing that happened was that the Stinger's Warhead filter was a bit damp. Essentially, though, it was very clean. (not too much mud where I live)

You DO have to clean it more often than if you don't have the CAI mod, but I measured a 40 degree F temperature difference between the Stinger with and without my CAI mod. Without the mod, intake air temps exceeded 140F during slow-moving and stop&go driving. That equates to a loss of about 10 HP after the ECU retards timing to prevent engine knock. Even after hitting highway speeds, the non-modded Stinger intake air temps would take a long time to come down. With my mod, the 100 degree temps in the city would plummet to 80 (ambient) degrees within minutes.

Of course, this data applies to my Stinger setup and the killer bee filter being lower may ingest cooler air, so I can't comment on how high the air flowing through it would be. Still, it'd be great if I can pop on a killer bee filter, though I fear its larger size and my shorter air bridge may not go together.......
Thanks Dave, and your idea works good. I have the option of not ever having to drive the vette in the rain again, so the system works for me. But as stated, you do have to watch your filter cleaning more. In another post it is discussed about the K&N filters being "bad" for the engines. I stated that I believe that there are probably more dirty, clogged paper type cleaners out there than dirty, clogged aftermarket types like K&N and Jims. I find and I believe that others also find that with the aftermarket type your awareness of the filters condition is elevated. With this said, nice job on the Venom Jim, and Dave...nice ideas.
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