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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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Don't want to and am not trying to start a p..sing contest about rear end lubes. Just need to know if 75W90 SYNTHETIC is okay for a '98 rear end. There are stories about paper seals and synthetic Dexron III being incompatible, but is synthetic lube, regardless of brand, okay in the '98? Again, don't care about brands. Just synthetic vs. dino.

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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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I think the paper seals are only for the transmission. I used amsoil syn. ATF for my manual tranny and amsoil severe gear for the rear end. Im very happy with them both.
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I used Amsoil in my stock rear differential and last change it was still "blue", the color it went in. Now I use Redline as required by DTE since I am running one of their units.
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I used Amsoil in my stock rear differential and last change it was still "blue", the color it went in. Now I use Redline as required by DTE since I am running one of their units.
That's good. Is it synthetic or dino?

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Charlie,
I believe that the owner's manual requires a synthetic 75w90 in the differential (I know my 02 owner's manual does). I don't remember reading any posts about blocking rings in the diff, those are in the manual transmission.
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Originally Posted by cruisemon
That's good. Is it synthetic or dino?

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synthetic lasts longer

no brainer
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Don't want to and am not trying to start a p..sing contest about rear end lubes. Just need to know if 75W90 SYNTHETIC is okay for a '98 rear end. There are stories about paper seals and synthetic Dexron III being incompatible, but is synthetic lube, regardless of brand, okay in the '98? Again, don't care about brands. Just synthetic vs. dino.

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use the synthetic 75W-90

also don't forget to add the

Limited Slip lub Additive Part No.1052358

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Both Amsoil and Redline are synthetic and unless you get the 75W-90NS Redline, both have the limited slip additive in the fluid already such that adding more could result in loss of limited slip capability. I don't recommend using the "NS" Redline, its the same fluid but will require you to also get the Redline limited slip additive and put that in as well.
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use the synthetic 75W-90

also don't forget to add the

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man is correct..
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I've put synthetic differential lube in six of my cars with limited slip differentials over the years without the limited slip additive and they all worked great. I think the synthetic lube is slippery enough without the additive.
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I've put synthetic differential lube in six of my cars with limited slip differentials over the years without the limited slip additive and they all worked great. I think the synthetic lube is slippery enough without the additive.
with u but u can say its like an extra safe,,maybe u didn't have problem before but its not mean that its can't happen in the future u can't tell..i've had my c5 for about 3 years now every thing was ok until i heared thats agly diff voice last mounth and i believe thats happened with many people out there..i can garantee that GM didn't make it with out a reason..for me i don't want to pay some more thousends on diff again,, be safeier for 5$

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with u but u can say its like an extra safe,,maybe u didn't have problem before but its not mean that its can't happen in the future u can't tell..i've had my c5 for about 3 years now every thing was ok until i heared thats agly diff voice last mounth and i believe thats happened with many people out there..i can garantee that GM didn't make it with out a reason..for me i don't want to pay some more thousends on diff again,, be safeier for 5$
If it starts chattering when you turn a corner you can always add the friction modifier later. It really shouldn't hurt anything, chatter just tells you the friction discs are not slipping enough when you turn a corner. I would rather have a good tight posi that puts power to both wheels when I take off.
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Originally Posted by jabrun
I would rather have a good tight posi that puts power to both wheels when I take off.
I think we all like a good tight posi but if it starts chattering, won't that do damage and putting in the additive wouldn't prevent the damage then?

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how much is 2l of synth. oil and the additive
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how much is 2l of synth. oil and the additive
Depends on the brand and the store. Mobil 1 at Autozone is about US$9.00 per quart and the addtive is about US$6.00. Castrol is about the same. Lucas brand is about US$14.50 or so.

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I think we all like a good tight posi but if it starts chattering, won't that do damage and putting in the additive wouldn't prevent the damage then?

Charlie
Too much additive will detract from the clutches doing their job. When using a synthetic like Amsoil or Redline, I put it in straight from the bottle and then run the car through some figure 8's in a parking lot to work it into the clutches. If it chatters, then a small amount of additive can be added and the process repeated.

I now run a DTE rear differential and DTE requires a lot more additive than what Redline has in it. But this is due to the heavy clutch pack they run and what they have found is required for optimal limited slip capability.

I would be careful about putting in too much additive on initial fill.
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I think I may have added to much additive yesterday when I changed my diff fluid and it feels like I have lost power. Can I fix this by just draining and refilling or can using to much additive cause perm. Damage?
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I think I may have added to much additive yesterday when I changed my diff fluid and it feels like I have lost power. Can I fix this by just draining and refilling or can using to much additive cause perm. Damage?
The additive won't cause damage and if you drain and refill you should be able to get the additive level to what you desire.

That said, I'm not sure how too much additive could make it feel like you have lost power unless you are getting lots of wheel spin. All the additive does is help the diff clutch plates slide when there is differential motion between the two rear tires (like when in a very tight turn) vice stick and release, stick and release (e.g. chatter). If the fluid has too much additive, all that will happen is that the clutch plates will slip more than design and your limited slip diff will be less limited slip. The limited slip diff is only designed to transfer about 75 ft-lbs of torque to the wheel with grip. Too much additive may lower that number, but I doubt by enough for you to really notice by the seat of your pants... and that only if you are getting wheel spin from one tire.

Did you change anything else?
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use the synthetic 75W-90

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per RPM
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Originally Posted by jabrun
If it starts chattering when you turn a corner you can always add the friction modifier later. It really shouldn't hurt anything, chatter just tells you the friction discs are not slipping enough when you turn a corner. I would rather have a good tight posi that puts power to both wheels when I take off.
So the OP wants to know the proper way to do things, and you suggest the opposite. I don't get it.

The service manual states:

# Fill the differential with fluid.

* Use synthetic axle lubricant GM P/N 12378261 or equivalent meeting GM specification 9986115 to approximately 1.6 L (1.69 qt).
* Use limited-slip differential lubricant additive GM P/N 1052358 or equivalent to approximately 118 ml (4.0 oz).

# Check the fluid level to ensure it is even with the bottom of the fill plug hole to no lower than 6 mm (0.25 in) below the opening.

The additive is a whopping $9.83. So what's the problem?
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