OK Bottom Line Up Front:
Do Electric Superchargers Work?

I found two different types of Electric Superchargers and I don't know if it is possible to actually do the types of numbers they are claiming...

1. The First Web Site I found was Thorton Electrical Superchargers selling at about $100 each with $10 shipping costs and there website is:
http://www.electricsupercharger.net/...FQINPAoduQOFCQ

Thorton is claiming they will give an increase HP of 30%! Additionally, they say, they offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee on all of their products. Items must be retuned within 14 days of arrival. As stated, a 30% gain in horsepower and torque is guaranteed for our supercharger packages.

2. The Second Web Site I found was the Full On Speed website and these Electric Super Chargers run on average a little more than $1,000.00 each and can be found at the following website:
http://www.fullonspeed.com/

They say, "We are the developer of the Patent Pending high end dual computer electric supercharger. Our units uses only ultra high quality space age materials such as titanium, super hard ceramic bearings and highly specialized aluminum that is 200% stronger that T6 grade. With the capability of no load spindle speeds of 80,000 rpm to 135,000 rpm in a split second, you need all the strength you can get to handle it's mega speed."

3. OK what do you all think and has anybody ever put one on a vet?

Thanks,

Roger

http://www.fullonspeed.com/

 

Get real .... this would be a MUCH better solution for your needs ....

http://www.turbonator.com/

 

 

Looking at the chat forum it sounds like they do work. Seems a lot of "old school" type of people are leary of the technology, but with some research it could pan out. If a supercharger is driven by a belt or by it's own electric motor. it may not make a difference if it's done right. Sounds like they run about 6~8 psi of boost pressure.

http://www.electricsupercharger.net/forum/

Hey, but maybe the whole website is just fabricated fake, and "people" say it works.

 

Just look at the "dyno" sheet they have posted at .....http://www.electricsupercharger.net/press.php .... click on it and tell me at what RPM the torque and HP numbers meet at .... TOTALLY ...... THAT is a fabricated dyno sheet.

If it was this "easy" don't you think the major performance parts vendors and automakers would be offering them ??? How come it's a few websites that don't list their street or mailing address and have a few pictures and instructions to "go to a hardware" store to purchase the parts you need to finishing installing them

What are you supposed to use ... sheet metal and duct tape, and some self tapping screws ....

Get real .....

 

Like I said, could be all fabricated. Look closely at the engine compartment of the car in your link ... it has a conventional turbo on it. You can see the exhaust manifold going into the driven side of the turbo. Some 16 year olds have too much time on their hands making up fake websites.

http://www.electricsupercharger.net/images/26.jpg

After looking at your link I agree that dyno sheed doesn't make any sense what so ever. I don't think it is showing a T and HP curve, but two HP curves (before and after) -- hence, no cross over of T & HP curves at 5252 RPM. I think the "84 HP Gain" is the difference at the 5000 RPM mark ... but notice the peak HP is the same on both curves. It just made more low end power, but basically zero more peak HP. From 6500+ RPM it's making MUCH LESS HP !! That dyno chart could really be from an electric supercharger setup, and if so it just shows that it doesn't work well at all.

http://www.electricsupercharger.net/images/dyno.jpg

 

As stated earlier, that dyno chart looks fabricated. It looks like they just photoshopped different RPM numbers on top of whatever used to be there.

Note how the RPM numbers at the bottom are of a different font (new courier?) and aren't even lined up!

Total BS.

--Ed

 

about as well as this:

 

I would bet you'd lose power!

 

Looks like the results are out! LOL :-) Bottom Line Nobody in Here Believes They Work! They are just taking your money!

After looking carefully at the Dyno it shows the Dyno was taken in 2003, I believe if this actaully worked many car magazines would have done full page articles on these very inexpensive HP Gains!

Thanks!

 

If ANYONE could make 30% more power for $100, every car on the road would have one.

 

and believe me, the tuners would be swamped beyond belief

 

WOW! A free Flobee with every purchase?

 

Just remember that a belt-driven supercharger parasitically takes about 10% of engine output to run, so an electric should have a motor in the 30-40 hp range to do what it claims

 

Electricity would drive this thing so there isn't anything taken away (parasitic) from the motor to drive it.


The main reason (out of a million) that this wouldn't work is that I think airflow to power is different from one motor to another and especially between a 4cyl versus an 8. The amount of air to make 200hp in a 4banger is way different than what's needed to make the same on ours. It'll eventually be a restriction and most likely before the peak power levels. There are a few recent posts now in the FI section about a twin setup on a 427 and how a 408 or 346 could make the same or more power with smaller turbos.

 

Uhhhhh .... with the stock electrical system ... of course there is a parasitic loss. Where do you think the electricity comes from in a car??? The battery is a storage device, the device that MAKES the electricity is the alternator (generator on much older cars).

If you attach a device to the car that needs X amount of amps to drive it, the alternator IMMEDIATELY increases its load on the engine to generate that X amperage. And that load is a parasitic loss, it takes HP to make the electricity.

Maybe if you added a whole bunch of batteries to the car that only powered this "turbo" and re-charged them only by, say, plugging them into a charger when you get home ..... then you might argue that there is no loss .... though I would argue the added weight of the batteries, this "turbo" unit, etc, undoubtably would waste more power than one of these POS units could generate in its makers wildest wet dreams.

 

Old school, fear of technoloy, whatever is a smokescreen. Here's the reality - unless you've found a way to change the laws of physics, a certain amount of power is needed to move a given volume of air at a specified rate. The air doesn't know where that power comes from and the physics doesn't care. If it takes 40 hp to belt drive a blower to mover enough air to provide 7 psi boost to a 5.7 L engine, it will take a closely simiar amount of electrical power to do it as well. Forty horsepower is about 30 KW or 30,000 watts. A typical automobile puts out about 14 volts, but for simplicity, let's say it puts out 15vdc. That means we need on 2,000 amps from our alternator to power our electric blower. I've never seen one, but let's suppose there is a 200 amp alternator available. We'll only need TEN of them to drive our electric supercharger, plus the standard alternator to drive the other accessories. The alternator is not 100% efficient so it will take more than the equivalent of 40 hp to drive the alternators.

Cliff Notes - Buy some of those "R" decals for your car. The horsepower gain is about the same as the "electric supercharger" and costs less. If you still want to spend some money, buy one of the "modules" for $22 that tricks the IAT into thinking it's still seeing cold air. You'll go faster because you wallet is lighter.

Need more? Buy TWO of the gas line magnets, a couple of the "water vapor injectors" that suck PCV bleed air through a jug of water to "humidify that power robbing bone dry air". It reduces spark knock, improves economy, increases power, reduces emissioins, stops global warming and assures peace and prosperity for all mankind.

Charlie

 

Now thats funny. Almost fell off my chair laughing.

 

I went to the forums on thorton's website and registered an account. The funny thing is that you cannot reply to any of the threads because the are all locked and only administrators can post new topics. So the forums are fabricated as well.

 

Couldn't you just get a power inverter and hook up a leaf blower instead? lol..

Oh its all a scam http://www.electricchargers.com/

Same stuff on this site too.. lol.. Seems they all steal eachothers pictures.. haha

How to know if your electric supercharger is a scam look here.. lol http://www.gaprojects.com/electricsu...fo/Warning.htm