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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 01:14 AM
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I was at an engine builders shop the other day and asked what oil they liked best. They proceeded to tell me that they had been having trouble with their engines recently and believed that it was related to the removal of zinc and phosphorus from the EP package of SM class oils. They advised that any oil with the SL standard would be better then the SL and said that they were using Shell Rotella T 15-40 until they did some tyesting on a zinc/phosphorous additive that one of the cam makers was marketing. Anyone else familiar with this or have a better explanation of the problem?
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I was at an engine builders shop the other day and asked what oil they liked best. They proceeded to tell me that they had been having trouble with their engines recently and believed that it was related to the removal of zinc and phosphorus from the EP package of SM class oils. They advised that any oil with the SL standard would be better then the SL and said that they were using Shell Rotella T 15-40 until they did some tyesting on a zinc/phosphorous additive that one of the cam makers was marketing. Anyone else familiar with this or have a better explanation of the problem?
Ask the guy where he got his chemistry degree. Seriously, do search for zinc, this horse has been beaten before.
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 01:40 AM
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Go here and read the "Starburst" oil myth .....

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1049762

RUN ... don't walk ... from that "engine builder" .....

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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 02:27 AM
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The engine oil additives that were removed as of late really only affect engines at break-in----most engine builders dump in a new additive that they sell now into a new engine and it's no big deal--(according to my builder)
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 02:48 AM
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Ah, I figured you guys would be on top of this one. The builder I was talking with builds mostly sprint car engines w/ flat tappets and high lift cams so not someone to do anything on the Zo6. I figured there was more to the story than bad oil.
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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The Rotella is one of the oils Comp Cams recommends for BREAK IN of their flat tappet cams.Nothing said about needing it after break in.
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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I'm using it in my new 403 with new Comp Cams cam. They also recommend using thier Cam break-in additive with the Rotella. I bought some and am using it. The valve train is very quiet even with a 242/242 with .610" lift. I plan on using it until ~500miles, then changing to RedLine 10w-40. It also has the same amount of ZDDP as the Rotella except it's a synthetic. I think the desirable attribute for Rotella other than it has 1200ppm of ZDDP is it is very low ash and high detergent which is good for keeping all that stuff that comes off the cylinder walls in suspension until it can get filtered.
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I use Mobil 1 15W-50 as it has more anti wear properties than their 10W-30 that is spec'd for the Corvettes.

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also use M1 15-w50
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