Anyone running these? I have them on my other car but was looking at Magnecor for the Vette.

 

I used to run the taylors, they were ok, but I am much happier with the magnecor.

To me magnecor is the best offereing out there.

 

Hmm. I have not used the Magnecores, but I seem to remember a few customers noting RFI with them??? I have the Taylors on my 554 RWHP car and they seem to be doing OK. ;) No RFI and lite the combustion process of very will while sitting a little close to the header pipe without burning. :)
Good Luck,

 

When I ran the Taylors I finally did get (hear) some slight EMI during silence on FM stations, and on AM stations.

This is due to the resistance enhancing coatings it and many wires use.

Also, I as gently as possibly, tried to remove the taylors one day from the plugs, and some of the wires broke and pulled out of the boots (yes I used dialetric grease before I installed them). The plug ends are cheaply made in my mind. Magnecor uses the stock spark plug boot end, which is extremely robust and also accepts the heat shield where the taylors do not.

I've even dissected a few and gone so far as to count the winding per inch, and unspool the windings and measure them.

I have found the magnecor wires to be the ultimate wire for a plethora of reasons. They use the factory plug boot which greatly reduces the risk of tearing the boot off like with many other plug wires.. They also use the most windings per inch of any wire I have seen. 200 per inch. They are microscopically wound, and dont use resistive enhancing coating like most other manufactuers because of such tight windings. When a performance test is done on wires it is typically flawed from the beginning. It's total and complete BS to simply compare resistance values of wires. When you send 30 or 40K volts down a plug wire, unique physical things happen like skin effect which can not be tested by a simple voltohm meter. In laymens terms skin effect is when electrons are moving so rapidly through a conductor resistance increases exponentially, and the electrons shear outward to the skin on the conductor and ride on an outer magnetic field, as the middle cannot be traversed.

The resistive enhancing coating manufactuers put on the conductor only "mimic" the effect of low resistance, and for simple tests like with a volt ohm meter "appears" like a good wire. Dont be fooled however. Because the coating breaks down over time and causes arcing between the windings which increases EMI and noise and reduces the performance of the wire.

In the following picture I have taken apart the taylor 8mm wire.
The Taylor wires use about 80 windings per inch.
On the far right is a stock carbon based wire.

The magnecors have been absolutely flawless with no EMI whatsoever, and I have had them on much longer than the taylors.




[Modified by kewlbrz, 10:19 AM 12/11/2001]

 

Shawn-

Two things. First, thanks so much for the plug how-to, very helpful! Second, where do you get the Magnecors and is there a part number to use?

Thanks again!

 

I got mine at a local speed shop.

They are around 70 bucks.
They are the KV85 LS1 Wires. http://www.thunderracing.com has them
part# 99-85229

other places: http://www.horsepowerstore.com http://www.tbyrne.com

 

Okay, this is truely informative. :yesnod: But will you, Shawn(kewlbrz), please tell me what the benefits of aftermarket 'wires' are? I am one of those girls who tries to fully research the mods I'm interested in. That includes determining the cost verses enhancement value.
Thanks for all your helpful information!! If only there was an apple pictograph for the teacher. :D

Happy Hanukah & Merry Christmass to all...may the Dradle(spelling?) or Santa bring the 'mods' on your wish list :lol:


[Modified by NRage, 2:46 PM 12/11/2001]

 

I had Taylor wires and switched to MSD. I cant tell any difference but a local speedshop had a display that showed MSD had a lower resistence which is good. :chevy

 

Like I described above, dont be fooled by resistance measurements. remember the resistance enhancing coatings I spoke about ??

And to Nrage, You wont see a performance gain by replacing wires, only preventing loosing performance you allready have from going away. What you are looking for is a wire that doesnt break down under heat, and one that doesnt induce EMI (interference). Wires that have coatings on thier windings to improve conductance characteristics break down sooner than later, and then your left with the worst situation regarding spark delivery and EMI. Another point of wire selection is boot design.


[Modified by kewlbrz, 3:19 PM 12/11/2001]

 

Thanks Shawn - and BTW, thanks for the ragtop article. With the pictures, I am all set! I mean, that's absolutely terrific.....

 

I have run the Magnecor wires for years in previous cars. I bought a set for the Y2K last year and installed them. A couple of months ago I noticed a ticking on the radio when I was in a fringe reception area. I needed to change the plugs for winter so I went ahead. When I tried to pull the boot off of #1 plug, it wouldn't budge. I finally had to use channel locks and a screw driver. The boot had melted to the head and when looking inside, I saw the terminal had slipped back in the boot and I couldn't get it to move. I cut about 1/2" off of the end and was able to reuse the wire. The radio ticking went away and I ordered a new set of MSD wires.

The 8.5 MSD wires may not be as good as the Magnecor but the spark plug boot side is a better design.

 

Not sure what you mean since the magnecors use the same boots as the stock plug wires. Did you use the factory heat shield? Id definatly say your eample is an exception.