Has anyone ever used OCTANIUM to there fuel. There website says mix there 32oz. with 15gal. of 93 octane and u will get 100> octane. Also, any math wizards out there that can figure this out?? If i have 18gal. of 93 octane, and mix 2 gal. of 113 octane How much total octane does my tank have??

 

Here's how to figure out the octane .....

Multiply gallons times octane

18 * 93 = 1674
2 * 113 = 226

add the results (1674 + 226 = 1900) and divide that by total gallons (18 + 2 = 20 ) so 1900 / 20 = 95 octane.

Hope you aren't thinking of doing this with 113 octane ... that is usually a "leaded" racing fuel and should NOT be used in your LSx engine. You could do this kind of thing with 100 octane UNLEADED race fuel. If you don't know where to get 100 octane ... post again and I can point to some sources for you.

And on that OCTANIUM ..... so far I haven't seen a single fuel additive that actually boosts your octane in an 18 gallon tank more than 0.1 percent ... if that. Think about it ... if it takes 2 gallons of high octane fuel to bump your tanks octane ... that 32 oz. can would need like 800 octane "fuel" in it ..... complete

 

Hey Stephen, thanks for the math. thats gooood! Anyway my FRC is tunned catless for racing at pump 93 octane. I am going to get a retune hopefully soon. The need for higher octane is imperative. I think carrying around a bottle of OCTANIUM would be better than carrying around 2 gal. of 113 highly flammable fuel. thinking about putting 1 gal each in the rear side campartments. ( BAMM )!!! Now ,i was always under the same impression that U have about octane boosters. I read a special magazine,put out by Sunoco years ago that stated there is NO booster that will give u any more octane when added to ther 94 pump gas. That has been a while. NOW, Co's like East Coast Supercharging, which is deemed to be a highly qualified shop told me a year ago about this product and how safe and good it was. I NEVER tried it yet. Let me know what u think??? Cause if i can run 100 octane by carrying around a small bottle in my FRC, that would be great. BTW, i just searched for OCTANIUM on my PC and found the info. Sounds too good to be true, but just maybe it works!!!!!!!!

 

As a former "marketing" guy .... I am always amused when I see cleverly worded text that IMPLIES something that isn't true .... but the casual reader thinks it is true ...... I cut this text off one site selling the product, I see the same text on several vendor sites ... so it is what is called "boilerplate" provided by the manufacturer .....

The ultimate in octane enhancement! Octanium is a specially designed race fuel concentrate that raises octane in late model fuel injected vehicles from 93 octane to over 100 octane! Perfect for all today's high compression, supercharged, turbocharged or nitrous assisted motors. One bottle treats up to 15 gallons of gasoline and is the perfect addition to your LS1, LS6, LS2 or LS7 powered vehicle


If you read it quickly the IMPLICATION is that one bottle (32 oz) will raise 15 gallons to 100 octane. But read it carefully .... it may be true that if you add enough OCTANIUM (like 10 bottles) you'll get 100 octane ..... but the text NEVER says what the octane is raised by when you add just 32 ozs.

Let's do the math ... let's assume you have 15 gallons of 93 octane in your tank ... and you want to end up with 100 octane. Well a 32 oz bottle of OCTANIUM is a quart, so to keep it simple and reasonable lets dump four bottles (a gallon .... which would cost $67.95) into the tank. We want to end up with 16 gallons of 100 octane so that is

16 * 100 = 1600

We started with 15 gallons at 93 so 15 * 93 = 1395 .... so ....

1600 - 1395 = 205 ..... that means the OCTANIUM has to be 205 octane ...... and you spent (probably with taxes) over $70.00 for a gallon

I think not .....

It's

 

Not sure where you're located exactly .... so let me give you a couple of sites that can help you locate race fuels in your area, hopefully lessening the need to drive around with a gasoline bomb in the back of the car ......

These guys are thee former Union76 fuel company that supplied NASCAR with fuel .....

http://www.rockettbrand.com/

They list two dealers in MD and maybe a VA or Delaware dealer might be closer.

And Sunoco stations carry 100 octane UNLEADED at the pump .... go here to find one near you.

http://www.sunocoinc.com/site/Consum...T100Locations/

Before you start using the LEADED fueels, you may want to look into the amount of lead these fuels contain and what it does to your engine. These fuels have way more lead than the old "leaded" pump gas. Highly leaded fuels will contaminate the intake valves, exhaust valves, and cause other problems.

Have fun with it .....

 

When a "highly qualified shop" or recognizable "famous" person touts a product as being so good, I always wonder what their profit margin or interest must be in the product...

 

I think 18+2=20 gallons......

I think this would equal 1.5 gallons on the ground if a C-5 has a 18.5 gal tank

 

It was an example ..... he was just picking gallons and octanes .... just like I did in the 15 gallon to 100 octane example .... just picking numbers ...... keeps the math in the examples simple .......

 

And at about $70.00 per gallon for this crap ... SOMEONE is making a freakin' boatload of money .......

 

Sorry, no more attempts at humor

 

[QUOTE=BlackZ06;1566252171]Not sure where you're located exactly .... so let me give you a couple of sites that can help you locate race fuels in your area, hopefully lessening the need to drive around with a gasoline bomb in the back of the car ......

These guys are thee former Union76 fuel company that supplied NASCAR with fuel .....

http://www.rockettbrand.com/

They list two dealers in MD and maybe a VA or Delaware dealer might be closer.

And Sunoco stations carry 100 octane UNLEADED at the pump .... go here to find one near you.
What a cheap marketing ploy I can't believe OCTANIUM can get away with such deceptive advertising. It could cost people thousands of dollars for repairs!!!! Anyway Stephen, I am really thankful for your keen eye in disecting their garbage!! and dissappointed at the same time cause it would have been a cheap fuel substitute. Also those sites are awesome. I just now called the Sunoco Station on the site and it is now $8.95 per gal. for pumped 100 octane.
I would just like to run about 95 octane with my head and cam pkg.
Just upset that my shop went to a better performance cam for me but had to sort of Dtune my motor to run off the 93 ethanol cr!p. and i went from 498 rwhp to 483 rwhp. So if i want to get back the HP... I guess i will have to add some higher octane and retune. BUT i want to be consistent so i don't run too lean. Again thanks for the great input on my thread!!!!!! ps. A friend of mine who races says that by using products from HOME DEPOT and SHERMIN WILLIAMS PAINT you can home brew your own unleaded 103+ octane gas. He said racers use the formula and swear by it. Ever hear or do that. again thanks Greg O.

 

Add a couple ounces of UNOBTAINIUM and it will boost any amount of gasoline to 100+ octane.

 

To hotwheels57

'' ROGER''

 

Greg,

What I'd recommend you do is use the Sunoco unleaded 100 octane to "boost" your 93 octane to around 95 octane. I do that when I go to the road courses ... not so much for improved performance (there are people driving Yugos faster than me ..... hey ... freakin' ONLY KIDDING) ..... but I don't want high engine temperatures causing premature detonation (knock) so I like to boost the octane to around 95 to 96.

The rocketbrand guys have conversion charts at ....

http://www.rockettbrand.com/technicals/technicals.htm

the charts aren't perfect, but they will get you pretty close to the octane you are looking for.

As far as the HOME DEPOT "solution" .......

It is a relatively "common" chemical... known to some as Naphtha .... to others as Xylene .... you can buy it at almost any Home Depot (or Loews ... or any major hardware store's) paint department.

Here's an example of an MSDS for the chemical ....

http://www.gunk.com/msds/M5112.pdf

Unless you have a friend who is willing to step you through the process of adding Xylene to Gasoline to boost the octane (and if they start backing away as you add the Xylene to the gasoline ... STOP !!!!) ....

I'd recommend you stick with mixing legal 100 octane UNLEADED gasoline to 93 unleaded (which is all I can get) in appropriate amounts to achieve the octane you want.

Be safe ... don't mess with chemicals such as Xylene unless you feel VERY comfortable doing it ....

 

I don't know about OCTANIUM, but I've used Torco and it does work. I was at the dyno a little while ago and was getting about 4 degrees of knock retard. I put 1/2 can of Torco into ~1/2 tank and the knock retard disappeared.

I don't know if it will work for you, but it worked for me.

Also, I'm wonderng why you want to run such high octane, and leaded fuel at that?

 

with the HP u have, are u using 93 ethanol with Torco or what?? i have a H/C pkg with a HP cam. and when my shop put in a more radical cam and comp921 springs, they dynoed it with the 93 octane in the tank and i know i lost performance. original dyno 498rwhp. bigger cam pkg and injectors 483rwhp??? I,m sure they tunned it so i wouldn't run too lean. I just want to up the octane maybe 2 pts. so i can get back my normal HP reading+. ps. straight pipes no cats. leaded or unleaded.

 

Nah, just straight old 93 octane premium @ $4.25 pg. Just upping the octane won't give you better numbers unless the pcm is pulling timing due to KR. If that's not the case you may find your lost ponies somewhere else. Hey, I bet those straight pipes and no cats are pretty loud. I know mine are when I open the dumpers

 

Torco is Xylene .... save your money and go buy it from Home Depot or Loews or any local paint store ......

Just be darn careful with it .......

 

thanks!!!!!!! BLACKZ06

 

Thats' some bad azz ride u got there bro!!! All that HP with pump gas!! Anyway I now have what looks to be a resonator coming from my headers. down to the Borla mufflers. Thinking about taking that cross over 4'' around resonator off and running straight pipes back. I used to have random cats where that resonator is now.and they are small but also have app.4'' dia. and when the cats were on i seemed to get slight backfiring when decellerating. I don't think it's good to have 4'' up front then back to 2 and 1/2. So soon i will go with straight 2 and 1/2 all the way back to Borla mufflers and that way i shouldn't get that slight backfiring when decellerating.with a little more horses. But the way it is now it sounds great!!!! You can hear the lopeing of the cam. just a nice deep sound at idle. and when i open her up>>>>>>>>>>>Hell i don't know what it sounds like. I am in the drivers seat, windows rolled up and AC on