View Poll Results: COIL OVERS opinion poll!!!
PFADT
47
60.26%
LG
17
21.79%
DRM
2
2.56%
BILSTEIN or other shocks
14
17.95%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll
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Team Owner
Joined: Jul 2004
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From: NJ
St. Jude Donor '05-'08
depends what you are looking from your coilovers. I ran LG coilovers for the last year and a half on the track. Overall they were a big step up from the leaf spring/shock combination I had prior. I loved them on the smooth part of the track and they were ok handling rumble strips, but there was something missing that I was looking for.
After talking to different people I contacted Gary@hardbar and question him about his Penske coilover setup. I liked what I heard from him and ordered a set. These give me more adjustments alot quicker so I can now play with my suspension at the track which before it was not as adjustable. I just got the coilovers in last night and I have to say the workmanship is top notch. Gary even sent me my personal shock dyno readings so I know they have been tested prior to being sent to me (I also know that the first set tested were not within spec so Gary called me and said that he was putting together new shocks. This is not a mass produced setup so you know you are getting exactly what you ordered).
Admittedly these are the next level of coilovers and not for everyone.
After talking to different people I contacted Gary@hardbar and question him about his Penske coilover setup. I liked what I heard from him and ordered a set. These give me more adjustments alot quicker so I can now play with my suspension at the track which before it was not as adjustable. I just got the coilovers in last night and I have to say the workmanship is top notch. Gary even sent me my personal shock dyno readings so I know they have been tested prior to being sent to me (I also know that the first set tested were not within spec so Gary called me and said that he was putting together new shocks. This is not a mass produced setup so you know you are getting exactly what you ordered).
Admittedly these are the next level of coilovers and not for everyone.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,458
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From: Northville Michigan
About two weeks ago I installed a set of L.G. Motorsports coilovers on my Z06. I too, like I assume others have done, looked at the Pfadts in addition to the L.G.s. I could not afford the Penskes, so I didn't investigate them.
For me, track events are not an every weekend thing. I usually get to the track about 4 to 6 times a summer. Also, because I don't spend a lot of time on the track I am not an expert on shock setup. Where I do spend a considerable amount of time driving my Z06 is on twisty roads.
I called Anthony at L.G. and asked him questions about the ride and handling characteristics of their coilovers. He answered everyone of my questions. In addition, he put me in contact with other Corvette Forum members who have the L.G. coilovers on their C5 and C6 Corvettes. Those individuals are the ones who convinced me to choose the L.G.s.
Since I have had them on they have done everything that the other Forum members told me they would do: 1) Reduced ride harshness, 2) Elimination of the rear end skipping that I had on uneven surfaces such as entrance and exit ramps. 3) Flat, balanced cornering. 4) Easy adjustment of ride height. All of those good things without having to adjust the jounce or rebound characteristics of the shocks.
For my type of usage, I am very satisfied with my L.G. Motorsports coilovers.
For me, track events are not an every weekend thing. I usually get to the track about 4 to 6 times a summer. Also, because I don't spend a lot of time on the track I am not an expert on shock setup. Where I do spend a considerable amount of time driving my Z06 is on twisty roads.
I called Anthony at L.G. and asked him questions about the ride and handling characteristics of their coilovers. He answered everyone of my questions. In addition, he put me in contact with other Corvette Forum members who have the L.G. coilovers on their C5 and C6 Corvettes. Those individuals are the ones who convinced me to choose the L.G.s.
Since I have had them on they have done everything that the other Forum members told me they would do: 1) Reduced ride harshness, 2) Elimination of the rear end skipping that I had on uneven surfaces such as entrance and exit ramps. 3) Flat, balanced cornering. 4) Easy adjustment of ride height. All of those good things without having to adjust the jounce or rebound characteristics of the shocks.
For my type of usage, I am very satisfied with my L.G. Motorsports coilovers.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Aug 2002
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From: Norfolk VA
Another LG guy here 9secondflat's comment about their racing experience is why I went with them in the first place, the second reason is that I could install them, have the ride height, alignment, and corner weight set and just go enjoy the car instead of messing with 10,000 way adjustable shocks
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After being set-up by Phoenix Performance
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After being set-up by Phoenix Performance
Last edited by Lancer033; Jul 23, 2008 at 11:00 AM.
Safety Car
Joined: May 2006
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From: Northern Virginia
St. Jude Donor '08
As Wicked Weasel said it depends on what you plan to do with the car, how much $$$ you got, and how much technical expertise you have.
My brother and I went with the Pfadt's. We only intend to drive them on the street and we liked the fact that they could be adjusted for both ride height and rebound/bump very easily. Lots of people are using them for HPDE and for race cars with a lot of success.
I have not installed mine yet as my car is in pieces getting rebuilt almost from the ground up! My brother has his installed and I have driven his car around the block several times and there is a noticeable difference over the stock set-up. We also both went with the Pfadtty race anti-sway bars.
My brother and I went with the Pfadt's. We only intend to drive them on the street and we liked the fact that they could be adjusted for both ride height and rebound/bump very easily. Lots of people are using them for HPDE and for race cars with a lot of success.
I have not installed mine yet as my car is in pieces getting rebuilt almost from the ground up! My brother has his installed and I have driven his car around the block several times and there is a noticeable difference over the stock set-up. We also both went with the Pfadtty race anti-sway bars.
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 948
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From: ANGLETON TX
thx everyone mine mainly street some road course but that maybr changing as i like the roadcourse racing its so difficult to make a choice LG , PFADT DRM seem to be the main choices close to same cost compared to penske i know im going with the Pfadt sways
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Team Owner
Joined: Jul 2004
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From: NJ
St. Jude Donor '05-'08
There is a very good on running post in CF RR section that you should read. It is comparing all of the different choices so in the end you can decide what is best for what you need.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2077999
Good luck it is not an easy choice especially since it is not a cheap mod.
Team Owner
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From: Buy USA products! Check the label! Employ Americans
if I was spending two grand I would want to know what country they were made in. I also would not want to be limited to one source for parts. Heck I want to know if I spend five bucks where my money went.
Last edited by John Shiels; Jul 23, 2008 at 06:43 PM.
Le Mans Master
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From: Farmington CT
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Team Owner
Joined: Jul 1999
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From: Buy USA products! Check the label! Employ Americans
can't get an answer from one vendor, seems country of origin is top secret for some. Other products they wave the flag. Still not sure what flag they should really be waving for that product either. This is only on certain items. Wonder why that is?
Last edited by John Shiels; Jul 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM.
Team Owner
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From: Buy USA products! Check the label! Employ Americans
If I am getting Chinese bearings I would like to know. Not a claim made and assembled in the USA for 2 grand. Stuff from China is usually crap and no need for me to increase their military budget. If I have to I'd rather buy from Taiwan or Bangladesh as they are not selling missle technology to the world for more trouble for us in the USA.
Last edited by John Shiels; Jul 24, 2008 at 07:48 AM.
Former Vendor
Joined: Feb 2004
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From: Burlington NC
Sorry Steve, but I know the Bilsteins aren't made here in the states
The shock bodies are built in Germany, then shipped over to CA. Where our USA built brackets get welded on by USA workers. Then the shocks get built by a USA worker. Then shipped UPS (USA company) to us in the midwest. This is where we finish building them. Using hardware from a USA small machine shop (same one since 1990), bushings from Energy (USA) Hyperco springs (USA) Peneske tee bar (USA). But then shipped all over the world using either UPS or USPS.
I would say 90-95 percent of our products are built right here in the good old USA.
Randy
PS Did everyone take a nap during history class about how japan armed themselves pre WW2???
The shock bodies are built in Germany, then shipped over to CA. Where our USA built brackets get welded on by USA workers. Then the shocks get built by a USA worker. Then shipped UPS (USA company) to us in the midwest. This is where we finish building them. Using hardware from a USA small machine shop (same one since 1990), bushings from Energy (USA) Hyperco springs (USA) Peneske tee bar (USA). But then shipped all over the world using either UPS or USPS. I would say 90-95 percent of our products are built right here in the good old USA.
Randy
PS Did everyone take a nap during history class about how japan armed themselves pre WW2???
Le Mans Master
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From: Farmington CT
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Sorry Steve, but I know the Bilsteins aren't made here in the states The shock bodies are built in Germany, then shipped over to CA. Where our USA built brackets get welded on by USA workers. Then the shocks get built by a USA worker. Then shipped UPS (USA company) to us in the midwest. This is where we finish building them. Using hardware from a USA small machine shop (same one since 1990), bushings from Energy (USA) Hyperco springs (USA) Peneske tee bar (USA). But then shipped all over the world using either UPS or USPS.
The shock bodies are built in Germany, then shipped over to CA. Where our USA built brackets get welded on by USA workers. Then the shocks get built by a USA worker. Then shipped UPS (USA company) to us in the midwest. This is where we finish building them. Using hardware from a USA small machine shop (same one since 1990), bushings from Energy (USA) Hyperco springs (USA) Peneske tee bar (USA). But then shipped all over the world using either UPS or USPS. 