beating the emmission test
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can i turn them off with a diablo sport predator tuner? my uncle has one that he uses on his mustang. he said i could borrow it if i want to. by the way, black zo6 is correct. summit racing equipment said they havn't sold that ghost sensor kit since 2007 when the company that made them went out of business.
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can i turn them off with a diablo sport predator tuner? my uncle has one that he uses on his mustang. he said i could borrow it if i want to. by the way, black zo6 is correct. summit racing equipment said they havn't sold that ghost sensor kit since 2007 when the company that made them went out of business.
The reason they stopped selling them is because they are no longer needed with the right software.
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http://www.epa.gov/oecaerth/resource...aa/casper.html
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Not really true. This is what killed the sims off..
http://www.epa.gov/oecaerth/resource...aa/casper.html
http://www.epa.gov/oecaerth/resource...aa/casper.html
Notice that Casper is not "out of business", and that they sell many items that the EPA could make disappear if they had a clue.
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I don't disagree, and it doesn't matter to me either...but they were THE manufacturer of 02 sims....and they are no longer sold because of that.
Casper's is still alive and well, yes...just succumbed to that rather large tax hit.
Tuning software was available for years before that event happened and 02 sims still sold like mad during that time.
Now, buying a tuning software suite (or having someone with it do it for you) is 'bout the only way of "beating" the test - If someone were so inclined to do such a thing that is
Casper's is still alive and well, yes...just succumbed to that rather large tax hit.
Tuning software was available for years before that event happened and 02 sims still sold like mad during that time.
Now, buying a tuning software suite (or having someone with it do it for you) is 'bout the only way of "beating" the test - If someone were so inclined to do such a thing that is
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best way is to have a tuner turn off all the enablers related to the rear 02's---EFILIVE--HP TUNERS---LS1EDIT----PS not sure if any handhelds can do it--Diablo-preditor etc.---
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Not really true. This is what killed the sims off..
http://www.epa.gov/oecaerth/resource...aa/casper.html
http://www.epa.gov/oecaerth/resource...aa/casper.html
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I just bought an 08' Pontiac and the OBDII is different. They (the dealer) can tell if you've changed tunes and put back the original to void your warantee. My Actron won;t even connect, my AutoEnginuity will but it will only do the Generic OBDII stuff till years end.
The days of fooling with this are quickly going to come to an END.
The days of fooling with this are quickly going to come to an END.
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I just bought an 08' Pontiac and the OBDII is different. They (the dealer) can tell if you've changed tunes and put back the original to void your warantee. My Actron won;t even connect, my AutoEnginuity will but it will only do the Generic OBDII stuff till years end.
The days of fooling with this are quickly going to come to an END.
The days of fooling with this are quickly going to come to an END.
My grandfather said the same thing 22 years ago when he saw the engine on my first fuel injected car. There is always a way. Even for an *** kickin high HP C5, there is just no need to remove the emissions equipment. Plenty of guys running 600 RWHP + all day long with cats, all sensors, AIR, etc.
I especially giggle at the guys that remove stuff from their car for a "weight savings", and the owners themselves are 100 lbs overweight.
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What would be undesirable about a c5, that run's in the 10's, has a fully functioning emissions system, get's better gas mileage than an SUV, and is a driver? I remember a time when you had to strip a car down to get more horsepower and shave weight, why would you want to do it if it wasn't necessary for the same outcome?
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My grandfather said the same thing 22 years ago when he saw the engine on my first fuel injected car. There is always a way. Even for an *** kickin high HP C5, there is just no need to remove the emissions equipment. Plenty of guys running 600 RWHP + all day long with cats, all sensors, AIR, etc.
I especially giggle at the guys that remove stuff from their car for a "weight savings", and the owners themselves are 100 lbs overweight.
I guess I'm missing your point
What would be undesirable about a c5, that run's in the 10's, has a fully functioning emissions system, get's better gas mileage than an SUV, and is a driver? I remember a time when you had to strip a car down to get more horsepower and shave weight, why would you want to do it if it wasn't necessary for the same outcome?
What would be undesirable about a c5, that run's in the 10's, has a fully functioning emissions system, get's better gas mileage than an SUV, and is a driver? I remember a time when you had to strip a car down to get more horsepower and shave weight, why would you want to do it if it wasn't necessary for the same outcome?
again. Please don't waste your time trying to convince anyone who wants (or more accurately thinks) that removing the cat converters and running their Vette on public roads is the thing to do to get that last little bit of HP out (not).
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I have seen a few posts where the electronics whizzes have claimed to be able to build there own O2 sims. If this info is available I would be extremely appreciative of a pm on how to do this...Thanks!!!: