the 500 hp limit
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the 500 hp limit
OK guys I have a 2002 Corvette and im pretty sure I going to be doing mods this winter I know about the trans but whats the weak link that limits me to 500 hp from my engine without a bunch of problems
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for now. Starting to see many guys who made these 500rwhp beasts last year have problems now.
Start with a fresh create LS6 or LS2 ( with 24 tooth wheel ) create motor.
Start with a fresh create LS6 or LS2 ( with 24 tooth wheel ) create motor.
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If you need a little more power an LS3 crate engine.
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Over 500RWHP without issues? On a stock clutch? Stock rearend? Depends how they use the car. I'll buy the stock rear if they never go to the dragstrip and auto-x only, but not the stock clutch. I'm only at 520RWHP, and my stock clutch was no match. I also went with a RPM differential, because I like to drive my car home from the strip, as opposed to on a flatbed.
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I'm at 525 rwhp with V2 T-trim supercharger with stock rear and clutch and ive been literally beating the living crap out of the car for 1200 miles and probably done 100 hard launches and hundreds of freeway romps all through the gears slamming at redline into next gear and all is still fine with 41K on clutch and still grabbing like it was brand new. I'm really surprised the clutch is still going. I thought my pressure plate went south the other morning slamming into 3rd, but it was fine after a few more romps.
I'm tempted to go more boost just to see how it handles it and if it blows before I put a forged 402 in it for some serious hp.
I'm tempted to go more boost just to see how it handles it and if it blows before I put a forged 402 in it for some serious hp.
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Over 500RWHP without issues? On a stock clutch? Stock rearend? Depends how they use the car. I'll buy the stock rear if they never go to the dragstrip and auto-x only, but not the stock clutch. I'm only at 520RWHP, and my stock clutch was no match. I also went with a RPM differential, because I like to drive my car home from the strip, as opposed to on a flatbed.
LS1 clutch will go well before 500rwhp and you can break output shafts with a stock car. So if we are talking stock drivetrain parts I'd lower that 500rwhp limit.
I was under the assumption that the car would be built. 500rwhp or more can be done with very good reliability if you do not cheap out on the build. If you want fast and reliable it is going to cost money. It can be as fast and reliable as your wallet can afford.
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I'm at 525 rwhp with V2 T-trim supercharger with stock rear and clutch and ive been literally beating the living crap out of the car for 1200 miles and probably done 100 hard launches and hundreds of freeway romps all through the gears slamming at redline into next gear and all is still fine with 41K on clutch and still grabbing like it was brand new. I'm really surprised the clutch is still going. I thought my pressure plate went south the other morning slamming into 3rd, but it was fine after a few more romps.
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I thought we were talking about motor issues?
LS1 clutch will go well before 500rwhp and you can break output shafts with a stock car. So if we are talking stock drivetrain parts I'd lower that 500rwhp limit.
I was under the assumption that the car would be built. 500rwhp or more can be done with very good reliability if you do not cheap out on the build. If you want fast and reliable it is going to cost money. It can be as fast and reliable as your wallet can afford.
LS1 clutch will go well before 500rwhp and you can break output shafts with a stock car. So if we are talking stock drivetrain parts I'd lower that 500rwhp limit.
I was under the assumption that the car would be built. 500rwhp or more can be done with very good reliability if you do not cheap out on the build. If you want fast and reliable it is going to cost money. It can be as fast and reliable as your wallet can afford.
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I thought we were talking about motor issues?
LS1 clutch will go well before 500rwhp and you can break output shafts with a stock car. So if we are talking stock drivetrain parts I'd lower that 500rwhp limit.
I was under the assumption that the car would be built. 500rwhp or more can be done with very good reliability if you do not cheap out on the build. If you want fast and reliable it is going to cost money. It can be as fast and reliable as your wallet can afford.
LS1 clutch will go well before 500rwhp and you can break output shafts with a stock car. So if we are talking stock drivetrain parts I'd lower that 500rwhp limit.
I was under the assumption that the car would be built. 500rwhp or more can be done with very good reliability if you do not cheap out on the build. If you want fast and reliable it is going to cost money. It can be as fast and reliable as your wallet can afford.
I was refering to the motor ONLY. I upgraded to a RPM diff with all the goodies and will be doing so with the trans as well to support my added power I will be making soon.
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Differential can end up costing you $$ if you don't upgrade. A broken output shaft can break the diff case. If the case splits the right way, and twists, it can take out the mainshaft from the tranny.
Fail to plan....plan to fail
There will always be a small percentage of guys that don't upgrade the drivetrain, and brag about how much they beat on their cars, and have not broke a thing. Eventually, their cars will get towed home.....just a matter of time.
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F/I is cheaper HP
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500rwhp NA shouldn't be a problem but if you want to do it and keep it relativly reliable your gonna have to go with a stroker of some sort. You are going to need to build your trans and a TC would be a good idea too. Strengthen the rear and a drivers side output shaft and you should be good. You plan to drag race it or is this just a cruiser?
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I have Nitto 555R2's and pull 1.85's with them. I'm not a track drag racer much at all but more of a freeway runner and back roads twisties driver is probably why I havn't blown anything up yet. Most of my hard romps are heavy in 2nd, 3rd and 4rh only now.
I really dont care if I bust something stock as I'm ready to upgrade the whole trans/rear anyway.
I really dont care if I bust something stock as I'm ready to upgrade the whole trans/rear anyway.
Last edited by briann510; Aug 27, 2008 at 02:14 AM.