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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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What are the pros and cons of installing a 160 thermostat?
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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I just checked...there are currently 172 pages of past discussions regarding this much debated topic.

Do a search using "thermostat" as your keywords. Look for replies by member evil twin. He's a retired GM engineer who worked on the Corvette. His replies are most enlightening.

Generally speaking, unless you re-program you fans to supplement the lower temperature thermostat, you're probably wasting your time. It's not a magic bullet for more power or lower temperatures. The LSx motors were designed to run warmer than the old sbc motors of yesteryear.

There are also some negatives in use of a 160 degree thermostat in a stock street car. You should be aware of those.

It's your car to do with as you please.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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You can also just reprogram the fans and bring down the temperatur to the 200 degree range. No need to change the thermostat.

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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I changed mine only cause I have a cam with advanced timing, etc.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 06:59 AM
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like said above,but also even if you bring the set temp. for the fans down it only works up to the certain point of outside air temp. Here in Houston on 100 deg humid day you will see 220-225 deg even though the t-stat is 180 and the fans come on around 205... The radiator just cant expel the heat fast enough. Bigger radiator would be an answer-I did it before in my C4.....
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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Two comments. First, you don't need to buy one, the stock one can be modified to open at any temp you want. Second, a bigger radiator provides more benefit in that the temps will stay closer to the thermostat opening temp allowing you to set the fans lower and keep the engine in a narrow range of temp while still keeping it within an acceptable range for oil as well.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
First, you don't need to buy one, the stock one can be modified to open at any temp you want.
Please explain haha
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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I'd like to hear about that one too.. (foot tapping)
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Originally Posted by Steve20
I'd like to hear about that one too.. (foot tapping)
Here is a link. This is actually an "old" modification that a lot of the newer folks in the LS1 community are not aware of.

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Very cool, thanks for the link. Definitely a pretty cool little modification.
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I tried cutting the spring in my stock thermostat to bring my temps down. It did lower them about 8 degrees, but I needed more.

I broke down and got the hypertech 160 and it keeps my temps at 175 degrees while driving. My fans were programmed to come on a bit cooler (at around 200 degrees I believe). I will have to get it tuned again once I finish with my H/C install and will probably lower the fan temps to start at 190.

All this so I can run more timing.

Oh, and its a real easy installaton. Taking the clamp off the radiator hose takes up most of the time (5 minutes). After that, its just 2 screws and you'll need to refill you coolant.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by hotwheels57
I just checked...there are currently 172 pages of past discussions regarding this much debated topic.

Do a search using "thermostat" as your keywords. Look for replies by member evil twin. He's a retired GM engineer who worked on the Corvette. His replies are most enlightening.

Generally speaking, unless you re-program you fans to supplement the lower temperature thermostat, you're probably wasting your time. It's not a magic bullet for more power or lower temperatures. The LSx motors were designed to run warmer than the old sbc motors of yesteryear.

There are also some negatives in use of a 160 degree thermostat in a stock street car. You should be aware of those.

It's your car to do with as you please.
There's enough reading material on this one to carry you through the long weekend.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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If you dont drive you car in the cold, a 160 therm with a manual fan control switch used to trun on either the low and high speed fans (see my website under C5 mods) can allow a healthy stock cooling system to keep the indicated coolent temps way below 200 on a 100 degree day. (With no foward motion)

This is also a great mod to use at the track to keep the temp down before a pass.

In the winter, a 160 therm may keep the temp below 170 during driving (non stop and go traffic) and some think the oil will not get hot enough to evaporate any condensation in the engine oil.
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