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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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Hello everyone. For my mechanical Engineering project I wanted to design my own lambo style door hinges for a C5. In order to do this I want an accurate model of the fender, door, door post, and window pillar. I will be using Pro/Engineer for CAD and CAM.

Does anybody know where I can get some geometry information on these components? Also I would need to center of gravity of the door as well.

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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I have never seen one of a C5. That is on my list of projects for this year - to do a fully detailed 3D version of the C5 in Carrera, but that is weeks away.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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There's a website that has the C5R in 3D Studio max format:

http://car.3dsmax-stuff.com/2008/10/...-3d-model.html

And here's one that charges $70 for a C5 in the same format:

https://www.the3dstudio.com/product_...earch=Corvette

Does Pro-E import 3ds files?
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I'm not sure. I'll have to look into that tomorrow at school. looks like the 3ds files are used in games and if I'm right they probably don't have the geometry perfectly accurate. Thanks

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There's a website that has the C5R in 3D Studio max format:

http://car.3dsmax-stuff.com/2008/10/...-3d-model.html

And here's one that charges $70 for a C5 in the same format:

https://www.the3dstudio.com/product_...earch=Corvette

Does Pro-E import 3ds files?
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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weeks? I would have guessed months or years. good luck with your project! I'll be curious to see how it turns out!
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I have never seen one of a C5. That is on my list of projects for this year - to do a fully detailed 3D version of the C5 in Carrera, but that is weeks away.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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I'm not sure. I'll have to look into that tomorrow at school. looks like the 3ds files are used in games and if I'm right they probably don't have the geometry perfectly accurate. Thanks
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave68
There's a website that has the C5R in 3D Studio max format:

http://car.3dsmax-stuff.com/2008/10/...-3d-model.html

And here's one that charges $70 for a C5 in the same format:

https://www.the3dstudio.com/product_...earch=Corvette

Does Pro-E import 3ds files?
No, Pro/E does not.

It may be possible to export the file into a DXF or step that would import into Pro. However, experience tells me that you usually get wireframe rather than a solid.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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I've never seen any readily available file that would import into Pro/E. Perhaps you could contact GM directly and tell them that you are a student.

GM uses Unigraphics , but those models can be imported directly into Pro/E (not student version).
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I've been considering contacting GM, but not really sure where to call to get 3d models though. I'll have to look into this more as well. Thanks for your input!

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I've never seen any readily available file that would import into Pro/E. Perhaps you could contact GM directly and tell them that you are a student.

GM uses Unigraphics , but those models can be imported directly into Pro/E (not student version).
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man... its been a few yrs since i have done Pro-E...i changed over to Solidworks, so much easier to use.... good luck with modeling though, i've always wanted to take on that challenge, but DAMN, it would be a lot of work!
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Originally Posted by 1 BAD BURB
man... its been a few yrs since i have done Pro-E...i changed over to Solidworks, so much easier to use.... good luck with modeling though, i've always wanted to take on that challenge, but DAMN, it would be a lot of work!
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I went from Autocad 2D to Autocad 3D to Designer (Autodesk's 1st attempt at a real 3D program) to IronCAD to SolidWorks, and back to IronCAD as my preferred program. IC is a a much better conceptual modeling tool if you are building an assembly from scratch. I still use SW at work and it has some really nice capabilities. However if you've ever used the IC TriBall, you are spoiled for life.

Pro-E IS very powerful, as is Catia and Unigraphics. The learning curve for the mid-range modelers is somewhat shorter from what I understand. If you are a 1-person company and money is tight, Alibre is 90% of the $5000 programs for less than 1/3 the cost.

Can you tell I've been doing this for a lonf time? I just wish I could remember everything........

By the way, I believe Patches used Pro-E Wildfire; maybe he has run across a 3D C5.
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Since I am all Mac-Based the past 18 years, I will probably be modeling in Amapi Pro and then exporting to Carrera for rendering.

Of Course, the new Intel Macs like mine can also run PC programs, but I have never used that feature.

I kind of doubt you are going to get a very detailed model commercially in the $70 range.
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Researchers at the University of Alberta study the complex interactions between charged particles and the magnetic fields that extend far into the upper atmosphere of many planets. Most of these charged particles are expelled by the sun in the form of solar winds, and interplanetary coronal mass ejections. This interaction is often visible from the Earth's surface in the form of the Auroras - the Northern and Southern Lights.
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Researchers at the University of Alberta study the complex interactions between charged particles and the magnetic fields that extend far into the upper atmosphere of many planets. Most of these charged particles are expelled by the sun in the form of solar winds, and interplanetary coronal mass ejections. This interaction is often visible from the Earth's surface in the form of the Auroras - the Northern and Southern Lights.
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Originally Posted by barack
Researchers at the University of Alberta study the complex interactions between charged particles and the magnetic fields that extend far into the upper atmosphere of many planets. Most of these charged particles are expelled by the sun in the form of solar winds, and interplanetary coronal mass ejections. This interaction is often visible from the Earth's surface in the form of the Auroras - the Northern and Southern Lights.
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Originally Posted by barack
Researchers at the University of Alberta study the complex interactions between charged particles and the magnetic fields that extend far into the upper atmosphere of many planets. Most of these charged particles are expelled by the sun in the form of solar winds, and interplanetary coronal mass ejections. This interaction is often visible from the Earth's surface in the form of the Auroras - the Northern and Southern Lights.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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I currently use SW at work and we recently installed a couple of Pro E Wildfire 4 seats for compatibility with one of our clients. I haven't used Pro E for three years since moving to my present job and honestly don't miss it at all. I maintain my own AutoCAD license and have done some pretty complex models in that - yes, standard ACAD. Those familiar with it cannot believe the 3D models I've done but I'm self-taught and started in 3D in ACAD because I didn't know any better. Been doing it for 15 years. SW has me spoiled though.

Here's the only 3D model of the C5 I have found to date.



http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPrevie.../257570/blFP/1

$120 and only in the following formats.
  • 3ds Max 3.00 ( .max )
  • 3D Studio ( .3ds )
  • Cinema 4D ( .c4d )
  • Lightwave 6.00 ( .lwo, .lw, .lws )
  • Softimage ( .hrc, .xsi )

They also have a C6, a Ferrari F50, a Ferrari 575M Maranello and several other cars.

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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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I've talked to others about using these types of files and the likely hood of getting anything useful into Pro/E isn't very good. It seems that are basically useful in 3d games and not very good when it comes to technical drawings. Thanks for the info though. I'm still looking into my options. I want to contact GM and see what they will give me if anything. Anybody know who to contact?
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Originally Posted by 1 BAD BURB
man... its been a few yrs since i have done Pro-E...i changed over to Solidworks, so much easier to use.... good luck with modeling though, i've always wanted to take on that challenge, but DAMN, it would be a lot of work!
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Solidworks is great........until you have to deal with more than 50 parts in an assembly. It's a great modeler, but not worth a damn for complex assemblies.

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I currently use SW at work and we recently installed a couple of Pro E Wildfire 4 seats for compatibility with one of our clients. I haven't used Pro E for three years since moving to my present job and honestly don't miss it at all. I maintain my own AutoCAD license and have done some pretty complex models in that - yes, standard ACAD. Those familiar with it cannot believe the 3D models I've done but I'm self-taught and started in 3D in ACAD because I didn't know any better. Been doing it for 15 years. SW has me spoiled though.
Can't believe you'd prefer Solidworks over Wildfire. While Pro/E definately has some quirks and is slighly more difficult to use, they just aren't on the same level when you get to complex assemblies.
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Didn't say I prefer SW over WF. I said I prefer it over the older Pro E that I used at my previous job. I used pre-WF Pro E there and switched to SW when I took a new job. I mentioned that we recently installed WF 4.0 because we have a new client that uses Pro E so had to for compatibilty reasons. I don't have enough seat time in WF yet to have an objective opinion but, regardless of what I personally prefer, I have to use what my company uses because that's what the workstations have installed and it's what 99% of our clients use. They comprise the biggest corporations in the medical industry so I guess SW has a pretty large fan base in my industry.
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