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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Ok, here's my situation. A buddy of mine just recently bought a 2008 Ford Mustang GT. So far he has a JLT intake, some sort of Bamachip tune, and a magnaflow exhaust. He says he can do 12.5 in the 1/4 mile, and won't shut up about how his car is faster than my stock automatic C5. Obviously income tax season is coming up, and I've decided that I want to shut him up. My Corvette is a daily driven car, and I don't want to effect the reliability. So, here's my question...what is the most cost-effective, and most reliable way to get a stock C5 to the mid to low 12's in the 1/4 mile.

Remember the car is currently bone stock. Lets try to keep it under $3,000. Although any advice would be awesome!!!
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Ok, here's my situation. A buddy of mine just recently bought a 2008 Ford Mustang GT. So far he has a JLT intake, some sort of Bamachip tune, and a magnaflow exhaust. He says he can do 12.5 in the 1/4 mile, and won't shut up about how his car is faster than my stock automatic C5. Obviously income tax season is coming up, and I've decided that I want to shut him up. My Corvette is a daily driven car, and I don't want to effect the reliability. So, here's my question...what is the most cost-effective, and most reliable way to get a stock C5 to the mid to low 12's in the 1/4 mile.

Remember the car is currently bone stock. Lets try to keep it under $3,000. Although any advice would be awesome!!!
Vararam, headers, and tune come to mind first.

What gears do you have?
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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12.5? Thats slow so its an easy one. 3.73 gears and drag radials. A 3600 torque converter too, just for added measure. My a4 stock with 2.73's did flat 13's all day on runflats.
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Gears, headers, sticky tires, and a tune.

That is all you should need to get to low 12s

Check out the Bolt-on C5 fast list in the Performance forum. See what others have done.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/perf...imes-list.html

I did 12.8 with just a CAI and Borla exhaust - on street tires.

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Vararam, headers, and tune come to mind first.

What gears do you have?
Car is bone stock. Just wondering what brand headers and gears? I'm new to modding a Corvette, I used to drive a Honda...hahaha. Keep in mind, this is a daily driven Corvette. I live in Fresno, and drive to Los Angeles about once a month. Thanks for all the replies so far!
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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I agree with capthuff on the mods, but come on w/the mustang gt and his 12.5 quartemile times with his mods. The shelby 500 typically posts high 12's for times and thats @500 hp. My money is on you even being completely stock.
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The A4 came with different rear gears. You can look up your RPO code and see which ones came with it.
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Since I own the same Mustang (an 07) with an intake an tune, I can tell you he is full of it. No where near 12.5. Even with drag radials high 12s at the best and for that he'd have to be very good. I've actually been on the strip against a Shelby GT500, I went mid 13s and he did high 12s. Make him a bet, you will win it easy.
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Originally Posted by C5Joe559
Car is bone stock. Just wondering what brand headers and gears? I'm new to modding a Corvette, I used to drive a Honda...hahaha. Keep in mind, this is a daily driven Corvette. I live in Fresno, and drive to Los Angeles about once a month. Thanks for all the replies so far!
Hey Joe, I live in Clovis and have a string of 12.5 runs in my 98. Minor mods to an otherwise stock vette.
Vararam
2800 stall
3.42's
LS6 intake
smooth coupler (may or may not help...but looks better than an acordian)
taylor wires
drag radials
corsa touring mufflers (recently replaced with straight pipes)
all the aforementioned netted 307hp at the tires. Not a really impressive number, but you loose a little with an auto and you loose a little more with the stall. The Vararam obviously does nothing on the dyno. I would guess with a M6, dyno numbers might be closer to 325.
You could do this for way less than $3k and still keep the car essentially stock.

In fact, if you want, hit me up and we can set up a race with your buddy. I can show him what the taillights of an honest 12.5 car look like!!!

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headers, tune, intake, converter and gears....and you will easily be able to accomplish that.
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Converter (3600-4000) will drop .5 off yer ET-Huge gain and makes the car feel MUCH more aggressive!! Still very driveable

Nittos- great launching street tires (or just get cheap slicks)

Headers- can often find used ones very reasonably

Exhaust- get some used aftermarket stuff
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Hide a n2o kit in her, tell him you didn't do **** to the car, stomp his *** at the track.... THAT will shut him up!!
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headers, tune, intake, converter and gears....and you will easily be able to accomplish that.
this will get you deep into the 12's. In regards to the gears and stall, I would go with 3:73 and a 3600 stall. I would add a sticky tire though.
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Originally Posted by C5Joe559
Ok, here's my situation. A buddy of mine just recently bought a 2008 Ford Mustang GT. So far he has a JLT intake, some sort of Bamachip tune, and a magnaflow exhaust. He says he can do 12.5 in the 1/4 mile, and won't shut up about how his car is faster than my stock automatic C5. Obviously income tax season is coming up, and I've decided that I want to shut him up. My Corvette is a daily driven car, and I don't want to effect the reliability. So, here's my question...what is the most cost-effective, and most reliable way to get a stock C5 to the mid to low 12's in the 1/4 mile.

Remember the car is currently bone stock. Lets try to keep it under $3,000. Although any advice would be awesome!!!
I don't think an 08 GT will run mid 12's in 1/4mile with just an air intake, tune and an exhaust. Its 13.8 stock

Headers, CAI, tune and a cat back should do it if he can magically make 12.5
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under 3 grand easy. i spent 290 on the vararam, 600 on a used 3.42 differential from this forum, and got the yank ss3600 very streetable at 725. at ls1speed.com it has no shipping cost over 100 bucks. so you will save 50 bucks on just the converter. i bought a hand held for 350 from another site brand new with 0 for shipping as well. plugs 17 wires 60 trans cooler 60. thats about 2100 bucks and i installed it my self in my garage. id be happy to send you the sites that i bought all of these from
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Originally Posted by C5Joe559
...Just wondering what brand ... gears? ....Keep in mind, this is a daily driven Corvette. I live in Fresno, and drive to Los Angeles about once a month. ...

I would NOT start with converter, headers and/or gears. You might not need them to get to 12.5 seconds. And those are bigger items that WILL affect drivability.

I'd begin with CAI (cold air intake) and catback and tune. Also, I'd run non-runflat tires, which will be quicker, quieter and smoother than the RF's (assuming you still have them). Here's a comparo of RF to non-RF: http://www.corvette-express.com/news.php

You can check your rear gearing by looking at the RPO (Regular Production Option) sticker in your glovebox door. The sticker will have a bunch of 3-character codes (hopefully, you've already got 3.15 gears). You can go to a site like this one to decode all those:
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/.../2004rpos.html

For rear gears in auto trans C5 (any year), I believe these are the two RPO code possibilities:
GU2 Axle, Rear, 2.73 Ratio
G90 Axle, Rear, 3.15 Ratio

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Driver mod!!

Then worry about other stuff
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Originally Posted by C5Joe559
Ok, here's my situation. A buddy of mine just recently bought a 2008 Ford Mustang GT. So far he has a JLT intake, some sort of Bamachip tune, and a magnaflow exhaust. He says he can do 12.5 in the 1/4 mile
Your buddy is full of crap.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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He lives in Kalifornia cant go to headers...dont waste time on mods get the Pcm tuned plugs wires intake is all drive the car and be happy it aint a mustang
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