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Its all personal preference...just like who runs what gasoline, brand tires, brake pads, oil and so on. I personally dont care to see my car with 215+ water temps on a 100 degree day sitting in traffic or cruising in town above mph where fans are on. I dont care if thats not considered overheating or not. My stock stat found a good home in the trash can where it belongs.
Thats what I like about forums....No one is ever in agreement on any subject no matter what it is.
A buddy and myself were out in the Black Hills the year before last. Outside temps were 115-120 degrees. It was blazing. His C5 started running really, really hot. He had the radiator fins blown out with compressed air at the local Chevy dealer. You would not believe the amount of crap that came out....sand, twigs, parts of leaves, bugs, etc. It was amazing. Once done, the cars temp settled right down where they're supposed to be. Do this first. I'll bet it fixes your problem and it won't cost you much.
Ed
I have all the mods you can think of and I have the stock settings for my thermostat and my car never goes above 220 degrees under any circumstances but is usually around 205 degrees!
I thank you all for great advise I have to inspect everything in my cooling system and find out the root of this problem. now as for the reprogramming of the fans how or who do I do that? or where do I go for this task? if I have to go to a shop can you recommend one here in So Cal.
Thanks again
Best way to clean out the junk is to remove the upper radiator support so you can see between the radiator and the condenser. Better still is to remove it but that is obviously more work. My bet is a lot of dirt and junk is up there. I check/clean mine once a year as it is pretty much a vacuum cleaner and pulls everything in. I ran over a plastic bag once and saw it go under the car but not out the back, guess where that ended up
So like some say the stat doesn't help much but fan control can. Would it be just the same to just adjust when the fans come on with no stat change?
The only heating problem I ever had was after driving the Woorward Dream Cruise in Detroit that goes 2mph stop and go for about 6 hours. (Past and among thousands of other really great cars.) Turned down a side road and drove at some speed and temp settled.
The Infiniti guage is a dumbed down gauge which receives its temperature reading after the computer has interpreted it, instead of directly from a sending unit. This allows the computer to control the reading of the Infiniti gauge to read in the middle regardless of engine operating temperature from 195-235 degrees. Only when you are on the verg of overheating, will it show a reading higher than normal.
This is to keep the number of compliants/service visits to a minumum-all newer cars are like this-except the Corvette, which actually indicates the engine operating temp.
Wow! all this info is very helpful, I just have one last question.
how can I reprogram the fan control? do I need to take the car to a shop or do I need one of those hand held hypertech programmers from Ecklers or vendor like them.
I installed a HyperTech 160 degree thermastat in my '01 and baseline operating temperature dropped from 198 degrees to 178 degrees.
Cooler operating temperature could mean a slight performance increase.
Does anyone remember that thread with a quick stat change method? Just getting things ready, having a helper and changing it with minimal loss of fluid.
The search function seems messed up recently and I can't find things...
Fan 1 on at 195, off at 185
Fan 2 on at 206, off at 196
Some have gone more aggressive, but I find these work fine for me.
Normal temp while moving is 176-178. The hottest I've seen it idling in hot weather was 198.
Same here on the temps and fan settings. I also get 31mpg so the lower temps didn't hurt my mileage.
Wow! all this info is very helpful, I just have one last question.
how can I reprogram the fan control? do I need to take the car to a shop or do I need one of those hand held hypertech programmers from Ecklers or vendor like them.
Thx.
I know any tunner should be able to do it, and the hand held programmers would do it as well. Both kind of expensive. Dealerships and places without tuning software may not be able to do it, but I'm not sure about that, I could be wrong.
After you have done a good cleaning, IMO I wouldn't worry unless you get to 240. If you reach that temp then you may have a real problem. Until then it is working as designed. Some interestng reading in this thread: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...hermostat.html
People changing thermostats to run cooler slays me. All the lower temp thermostat does is open SOONER. It has zero effect on operating temp when fully opened!
People changing thermostats to run cooler slays me. All the lower temp thermostat does is open SOONER. It has zero effect on operating temp when fully opened!
People changing thermostats to run cooler slays me. All the lower temp thermostat does is open SOONER. It has zero effect on operating temp when fully opened!
Yea, that is why it is confusing though. You could make a great case that a good tuner knows the most about these engines than anyone else because they are able to make changes in all the parameters for performance. AND so many recommend the 160 degree stats.
The engeneer who works on it also has to work with emissions and needs a hotter engine to burn off more waste products, etc.. So can't really say the engeneer would have done it for best performance. He needs to trade some performance for emissions.
I run a 160 and I installed a manual fan over-ride switch (see my website for details if interested).
I can keep the indicated temps below 190 on a 100 degree day stuck in traffic for hours. Also at the track on a warn day its noticable differance running a low temp. The t-stat itself does little.
I also like the idea of not having the engine bay cooking - even the air intake stays cool.
There are so many variables involved.
Last edited by warren s; Mar 27, 2009 at 12:22 PM.