Originally Posted by Camjamsdad

In one of the other LT EBay clone threads there are dyno results proving OBX headers are worth the money. The debate has always been that you pay more for better quality. Which isn't always the case. The bashers don't own cheap headers so they have to defend their purchase.

Now for me I want to see two things. First is wall thickness on all the available headers. Second is a simple magnet test. True high grade T304 Stainless is non magnetic. The cheaper SS will be magnetic. Rolled stainless will be somewhat magnetic. You will see some degree of magnetic among the cheaper SS. The harder the magnet sticks, the cheaper your rip off headers are. The magnetic stainless will rust. What? Yep cheap Stainless will rust.

So how about everyone with SS headers, regardless of brand, go pop your hood and stick a decent magnet to your headers and tell me if it sticks, how hard, and who makes your headers. Or should I start a new thread for this?

Originally Posted by speedyhawk101

Hey there ArkansasZ06 I ordered mine last night. 617 shipped to the door. I couldn't pass up a set up that cheap.

Originally Posted by Jhonathan_W

What cat back are you guys going to run with these headers?

Originally Posted by ArkansasZ06

Now don't get me wrong I would love to have some LG Pros but not for the price that they require.

Originally Posted by Sinister-one

Very well put...

What ever happened to buying name brand headers at a fair price. I've built about 4 street / race cars in my day and put Hooker headers on all my projects. They were, at the time, the better header on the market. A set of 1 7/8 race headers for my Camaro's 68 and 69's would run about $300 bucks.

Now all of a sudden everyone wants $1000 plus !! What gives ? I had no problem with buying the OBX headers for my Vette. I did have to pay a little extra for the high flow cats, but in my book it was way better than paying for OVER PRICED name brands.

Just my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by AR Headers

Sinister, You're more than welcome to come to our facility to see why our headers cost what they do. Speaking for A.R. Headers, it isn't that header systems made in the US, using 100% US made S/S and labor is overpriced, it's that cheap knockoffs made with inferior materials and labor that's pennies to the dollar is priced accordingly. I won't speak for other brands but A.R. Headers are far from overpriced. Clearly you're willing to pay much less in price for much less in quality (whether you know it or not), and that's fine. Thankfully most aren't and at some point when you'll realize your purchase wasn't all it was cracked up to be. At that point you'll step up and buy a U.S. made system.

Nick

Originally Posted by AR Headers

Sinister, You're more than welcome to come to our facility to see why our headers cost what they do. Speaking for A.R. Headers, it isn't that header systems made in the US, using 100% US made S/S and labor is overpriced, it's that cheap knockoffs made with inferior materials and labor that's pennies to the dollar is priced accordingly. I won't speak for other brands but A.R. Headers are far from overpriced. Clearly you're willing to pay much less in price for much less in quality (whether you know it or not), and that's fine. Thankfully most aren't. The time will come when you'll realize your purchase wasn't all it was cracked up to be. At that point you'll step up and buy a U.S. made system.

Nick

Originally Posted by K RIPPER

813C3 Suggest you read ENTIRE post with attention to detail,then make comments that are accurate.I am not interested in a pizzing contest so lets start fresh.I actually have sentiments exactly like you most certainly want to buy and help my neighbor down the street or Ohio or anywhere else to help my country but times change and as I said in a prior post it is now a world economy we don't shop in the little hardware store on Main St.we go to Home Depot at the strip mall.The world is the store and free enterprise is king .Free enterprise is what made America great and what caused the fall of the U.S.S.R.. I don't buy strictly on the basis of country of orgin but on the basis of quality and price and I WILL and HAVE compromised on both to buy American made.We have to compete on the world stage, competition is good will make for a better less expensive product.Chevy Ford and Chrysler sat on their azzes while Toyota and Honda were scrambling around like a busy ant colony winning over the American public (no I'm not waving the Honda or Toyota flag) (nor have I ever owned a foreign car) well guess what Toyota is #1 in the US what did it do to Chevys? COMPETITION has made them better, better trhan they have ever been from the cracked cap connecting rods to the five computers and 90 micro processors and the coil on plug ignition system.Want to help our country get all the facts learn the rules and play the game on the world stage.To get back to the original OP OBX headers are they better/ not yet, would I buy ,probably yes quality is down but from input from other forum members only slightly but the price difference is so large it makes sense plus as I stated prior the money left over I can spend on additional mods and if possible U.S.A. made that have quality and price

Originally Posted by AR Headers

K.Ripper, You make some good points but here's where your Toyota/Honda analogy doesn't apply, these overseas made products are nowhere near the quality of their U.S. made counter parts and the price reflects that. The pig iron nickel used to make those pipes will come back and bite many in the *** over time. It's happened before and it'll happen again. Our Asian friends are not going to use high grade S/S with pure nickel when they have millions of tons of pig iron nickel collecting dust. We continuously test this material and have yet to find anything we'd deem usable. How about that fact that these fly by night companies steal other designs and profit from them? Those headers are carbon copies of a U.S. brand. I think it's utterly despicable that they bring this garbage to market.

Nick