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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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Did a search but didn't get much.

Need to drop the cradle to put engine back in. Anyone have a write-up for it? Is there a way to keep the alignment correct?

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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Unbolt the upper a-arms at the top. That should keep you fairly OK on the alignment as the normal bolts for the alignment are on the bottom a-arm. Be careful to not loose or mix up any spacers (washers) on the studs. But, you more than likely will be off on the alignment. I pretty much assume I need a alignment if I drop either cradle or do any wrenching on the suspension.

I like to disconnect the shocks at the bottom, disconnect the steering at the crimp bolt. Unbolt the sway bar at the bushings.

The brake lines will become an issue if you drop too far.

Is the radiator out? If not, I'd take it out.

There are 4 bolts that attach the cradle to the frame, like 21mm. ONLY use hand tools, do NOT use power tools or you may create a huge project. I don't even want to think about what it would take to repair those studs.

Hopefully others will chime in, as I'm sure I missed something.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Thanks Matt

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This was WAY easier then I thought it was going to be.

4 bolts on each A-Arm
2 lower shock bolts
1 steering column bolt
4 Cradle bolts
5. Forgot to add I disconnected the calipers and secured them to the frame
Trans jack under cradle with 2x6 board perpendicular to the cradle

That was it. I used an open end 21 MM wrench on the front two cradle bolts so I didn't even need to disconnect the sway bar.

Had the motor in and positioned sitting on the mounts in less then five minutes.


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Originally Posted by squidwards vert
This was WAY easier then I thought it was going to be.

4 bolts on each A-Arm
2 lower shock bolts
1 steering column bolt
4 Cradle bolts
Trans jack under cradle with 2x6 board perpendicular to the cradle

That was it. I used an open end 21 MM wrench on the front two cradle bolts so I didn't even need to disconnect the sway bar.

Had the motor in and positioned sitting on the mounts in less then five minutes.

Hope its that easy for me when I drop my motor in.
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Originally Posted by nickolbag
Hope its that easy for me when I drop my motor in.
Feel free to PM me if you need any help at all.


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Is your driveline in or out?
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all was out. Just a shell.

Complete drive line rebuild, engine, (forged 383) trans (rebuilt stronger) and diff (4:10 and hardened output shafts).

just dropped in a 383 forged stroker. Waiting on the trans, should be Wednesday. Will measure air gap on the clutch for possible shims and then re-assemble.

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Curious since you have done it, do you think you could have slipped in the motor if the drive line were in place?
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I like going in from the bottom, with the engine and trans I mean.

It was built that way, that is how its done in the manual, and there is more room to play with. Just drop the whole cradle, without the brake module. It is pretty much the same amount of work, and easier to control. I'd think its easier to align with the drive train as well, if you have the tunnel plate off it can drop pretty far to allow you to work on it.

But, I've only done it a couple of times and I'm still learning.
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Curious since you have done it, do you think you could have slipped in the motor if the drive line were in place?
I think so, there was a lot of room to come forward with the cradle with the car up fairly high. I disconnected the calipers and secured them to the frame. I could have pulled the cradle completely out from under the car if i needed to. I doubt the motor was at more then a 20 degree angle tilted front to back. I used two chains one per side mounted just behind the motor mount bracket to the block.

I was totally shocked how easy the motor went in. I busted out laughing thinking of my previous struggles with the cradle in place.

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Originally Posted by vettenuts
Curious since you have done it, do you think you could have slipped in the motor if the drive line were in place?
I did mine with the driveline in place. My cradle was almost 1" below the bolts. It's definitely a two person job with the driveline in. However my help didn't show up. I managed to do it by myself. I was exhausted since I had to get under the car a quite a few times to line up the clutch to the shaft. Lower the motor, tilt the motor, raise the motor, tilt the motor, repeat, repeat, repeat and then it finally lined up.

The heads were not on the motor.
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