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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 05:14 AM
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Trying to weigh the pros and cons to doing this mod...Any feedback from those who may have done it would be appreciated....I have a Blackwing on there now...I really dont wanna drop $489 on a Honker if this DIY mod will get me just as close.

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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 06:18 AM
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Kind of looks like my CAI

Engine will breath better.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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Thanks for sharing. I had never seen that peticular mod befor.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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not to be a jerk but why not just get a vararam? do you already have an intake system of some sorts on there?
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Some of us dont like v-rams double air intake. and actually I put duct tape on my screens for better aerodynamics.

have done many many back to back dyno comparisons, One CAI is just about as good as another.

any time you can decrease aero drag, the car will be faster

the newer single air intake for the C6s is a much better idea

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It may be more money but the Calloway honker, or Cyclone, or Vortex CAI are easier to install then making this one.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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Same principal as the zip tie mod. I like it.
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good point au n egl i didnt think about that.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
It may be more money but the Calloway honker, or Cyclone, or Vortex CAI are easier to install then making this one.
If you're on a budget it works well. I did Dave's mod several years back when I still had my LS1 and a Blackwing.

The only thing I did different was to forego the wire screen, plus I used three 1" wide aluminum strips on the backside ("topside") of the radiator shroud to provide more reinforcement for the screws I used. The flange on the envelope holder is narrow, so the extra "backing" so-to-speak, provided additional reinforcement and was also cheap.

Since I now have gone through my entire drivetrain upgrade, I'm using a Honker.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Some of us dont like v-rams double air intake. and actually I put duct tape on my screens for better aerodynamics.

have done many many back to back dyno comparisons, One CAI is just about as good as another.

any time you can decrease aero drag, the car will be faster

the newer single air intake for the C6s is a much better idea
Road race or drag race?
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Some of us dont like v-rams double air intake. and actually I put duct tape on my screens for better aerodynamics.

have done many many back to back dyno comparisons, One CAI is just about as good as another.

any time you can decrease aero drag, the car will be faster

the newer single air intake for the C6s is a much better idea
I'd wager the drag increase due to screens front intakes is minimal. The benefits of cold air, delivered from a high pressure area, are well documented. Dynos don't show the benefit of the Vararam.
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Originally Posted by osrudbob
road race or drag race?
both.
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I'd wager the drag increase due to screens front intakes is minimal.
Significant difference. We still have more wind tunnul time scheduled, but Not Until after the NASCAR session is over. Cant get time now

The benefits of cold air, delivered from a high pressure area, are well documented. Dynos don't show the benefit of the Vararam.
that is ANY CAI. when you switch from one CAI to another you dont see too much difference.

and again that Ram air stuff is myth.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Significant difference. We still have more wind tunnul time scheduled, but Not Until after the NASCAR session is over. Cant get time now



that is ANY CAI. when you switch from one CAI to another you dont see too much difference.

and again that Ram air stuff is myth.
Amen. Almost up there with "emergency brakes" and "sway bars".
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emergency brakes? what are those?
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Originally Posted by paullywalnuts
Forgot to mention..I have a Blackwing on there now.
When Dave68 came up with this idea, that is what he had too. You can see it in the pix.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Significant difference. We still have more wind tunnul time scheduled, but Not Until after the NASCAR session is over. Cant get time now



that is ANY CAI. when you switch from one CAI to another you dont see too much difference.

and again that Ram air stuff is myth.
I said nothing about "Ram Air", but it stands to reason ambient air from a frontally exposed area would have less constriction than a neutral, or perhaps even a negative pressure area. You speak of "significant difference". Could this be documented in actual numbers? Isn't aerodymanic drag exponential, I.E. the higher the speed, the drag increases exponentially? If you actually went to the expense of testing the plugging up of your front fascia in a wind tunnel, I admire your attention to detail. However, in the real world of 0-130 mph, or so, is it your contention that these small apertures make a measurable difference? Call me skeptical. I do agree that the difference between the better CAIs is minor, FWIW.
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