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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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I have a new build and my mechanic suggested that I run the Valvoline 10 W 30 racing oil (not street legal). This has a higher Zinc concentration and I know that most guys who use it, use it because they have flat tapped cams not so in my case. Now I am not running cats and he said that this would eventually save my engine and give it longer life. I have been using RP 10-30 5.5 quarts and 1` quart of Lucas Synthetic oil stabilizer for about 2 years now. Should I change over or stay as I am. Just looking to treat my engine right.
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Your question will spark as many varied responses as asking which color is best suited for a Corvette. That said, is there a warranty involved? If there is, does it require a certain type of oil to maintain the warranty? If not, then use what you feel is best. If you need a certain type to maintain the warranty, then use that.

Good luck with the new engine...
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Your question will spark as many varied responses as asking which color is best suited for a Corvette. That said, is there a warranty involved? If there is, does it require a certain type of oil to maintain the warranty? If not, then use what you feel is best. If you need a certain type to maintain the warranty, then use that.

Good luck with the new engine...
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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I would change to Valvoline Synpower 10W30 that meets the Corvette 4718M spec. It has better wear protection than Mobil 1 and is guaranteed against engine failure for 300,000 miles.
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TEXHAWK0
I would change to Valvoline Synpower 10W30 that meets the Corvette 4718M spec. It has better wear protection than Mobil 1 and is guaranteed against engine failure for 300,000 miles.
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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I would change to Valvoline Synpower 10W30 that meets the Corvette 4718M spec. It has better wear protection than Mobil 1 and is guaranteed against engine failure for 300,000 miles.
I'd like to see someone try to collect on this.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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I'd like to see someone try to collect on this.
That oughta be a short course in zoology!
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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I'd just go with a good name brand of oil like the Valvoline, Castrol, Mobil 1 in the 5w-30 or 10w-30 and leave out the additives for the first 80k miles. The Valvoline with Zinc will give your valves extra protection if you have a big lumpy cam, but it may also gum up your O2 sensors, so I'd not use it. Put synthetic in there after 500-750 miles or so and live a long happy life with the new engine.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 01:54 AM
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racing oil needs to be changed often , very often
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 02:51 AM
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Personally, I'd use Amsoil 0w30 Full Sythetic and no additives, or use German Castrol 0w30. The valvoline 10w30 is a good oil too... I would NEVER go with Mobile1. Your mechanic is right with his suggestion, but you can't go wrong with Amsoil either.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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Uh, oh. Here we go.....

I use Castrol Syntec myself.

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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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Many builder suggest a non synthetic for break in as the rings (according to them) seat faster.Personally I think if the engine was built properly you can use any oil you wish.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SCM_Crash
I would NEVER go with Mobile1.
Serious. What do the people who engineered and built our engines know? fk them.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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If you want a lot of zinc, Mobil-1 High Mileage 10W-40 is a good option. The data sheet shows it having ~1100ppm, more than the standard 800ppm their regular stuff contains.

I just put a hard ~2 hours of road course time on my fill of this oil, and should be pulling a sample to send off to Blackstone for analysis.

Observations thus far are that the engine is quiet when cold and at running temp, and oil consumption was less than 1/2 quart for the whole track event.

For cold weather use I'd want a 5W or 0W viscosity prefix, but my car is in hybernation during the Winter so it's a non-issue.
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For what its worth, I'm breaking in my new engine with conventional oil. Changing it out at 500 miles and again at 2000. After that my engine builder said as long as I'm not road racing then conventional/synthetic doesn't matter.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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My 402 from Texas Speed recommended VR1 20-50 or Shell Rotella 20-40(?) for break in. I also put in a quart of the STP additive for the extra Zddp and the Rotella for the first 500 mi and then switched to the VR1 for the the next 5000. I am switching the the AMSOIL Premium 20-50 as soon as it arrives at my door. I do road race mine and it does get HOT. I would think you would have to go with the builders recommendations as he knows his motors and warranties. Just don't see how you can go wrong either of the major brands though as long as the weight matches your use. I am starting the Blackstone analysis for mine to help keep track of my expensive motor. Good Luck.
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Originally Posted by NeutronVette
Serious. What do the people who engineered and built our engines know? fk them.
Back in 97, Mobile1 was pretty good... Their base-stock has changed a lot. Honestly, I don't want to get into that discussion. If you like Mobile1, use it. It's your car. I will not use it because there is better oil. Period.
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Originally Posted by VinnyT
Uh, oh. Here we go.....






I like pie.
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Back in 97, Mobile1 was pretty good... Their base-stock has changed a lot. Honestly, I don't want to get into that discussion. If you like Mobile1, use it. It's your car. I will not use it because there is better oil. Period.
Could you provide us with some details on MOBIL 1's base stock formulation changes?
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Guess you didn't read the "Honestly, I don't want to get into that discussion" part... Few do, though. So rather than starting this all over, you can do some catch up: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1570680062-post35.html

I don't feel like arguing the same argument that's been argued since electric cars went out of style. I was mearly suggesting to use a better oil than Mobile1, which you can't deny there are better oils than Mobile1.
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