Super Short Throw Shifter
Team Owner
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From: San Jose/Bear Valley CA
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Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (benelliwang)
I bought a ripper and installed it. nothing to wear out... or break due to substandard joining of metal to metal surfaces. Have you ever tried one of these?
vetterdstr :cheers:
vetterdstr :cheers:
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Burning Brakes
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From: Vegas
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (vetterdstr)
I bought a ripper and installed it. nothing to wear out... or break due to substandard joining of metal to metal surfaces. Have you ever tried one of these?
vetterdstr :cheers:
vetterdstr :cheers:
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From: Manitoba/San Jose del Cabo
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St. Jude Donor '11
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (benelliwang)
I think it sounds like a good cheap mod that seems to work ok. I went with a Hurst for one reason...resale... I will be taking the Hurst out when I sell the car and I need the stock shifter to put back in it. Not everybody will like a shorter shifter, being able to put it back to stock is a nice option when reselling. :cheers:
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From: A FEW CLICKS NORTH OF THE CANAL
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (racer44)
I think it sounds like a good cheap mod that seems to work ok. I went with a Hurst for one reason...resale... I will be taking the Hurst out when I sell the car and I need the stock shifter to put back in it. Not everybody will like a shorter shifter, being able to put it back to stock is a nice option when reselling. :cheers:
This is what I was thinking as well :cheers: That is when my hurst ever gets shipped from LAPD...... on order since 12/26/01 :nonod: still waiting
RAY
Drifting
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From: Maryland
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (benelliwang)
ROFLMAO!!! The amount of force is directly proportional to the throw. The shorter the throw, the greater the force. Draw a force diagram and try to remember your Jr. High School science (yes physics does work).
Ripper shaft is taller, hence longer throws compared to my mod. It also requires higher efforts then my mod. Plus, some people are experiencing noises form Ripper. A good weld should last a lifetime in this application.
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Jul 1999
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From: Vegas
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (Rx7Rob)
Well, I dropped out of Jr. High School, cause I was dumb…
The fact is, this mod requires less effort then Ripper and has lesser throws then the Ripper. The throws are less because it is shorter then Ripper. The effort is less because the mechanism is not as tight as Ripper. Maybe be because it does not have all those springs like the ripper? Maybe the Ripper I tried was installed badly by the owner? But the effort of this mod IS higher than the stock shifter, its just not as high as Ripper and Kirban. Plus, without the rubber, it is much more precise.
Your physics is right, may be I am just to dumb to explain this.
The fact is, this mod requires less effort then Ripper and has lesser throws then the Ripper. The throws are less because it is shorter then Ripper. The effort is less because the mechanism is not as tight as Ripper. Maybe be because it does not have all those springs like the ripper? Maybe the Ripper I tried was installed badly by the owner? But the effort of this mod IS higher than the stock shifter, its just not as high as Ripper and Kirban. Plus, without the rubber, it is much more precise.
Your physics is right, may be I am just to dumb to explain this.
ROFLMAO!!! The amount of force is directly proportional to the throw. The shorter the throw, the greater the force. Draw a force diagram and try to remember your Jr. High School science (yes physics does work).
Ripper shaft is taller, hence longer throws compared to my mod. It also requires higher efforts then my mod. Plus, some people are experiencing noises form Ripper. A good weld should last a lifetime in this application.
Ripper shaft is taller, hence longer throws compared to my mod. It also requires higher efforts then my mod. Plus, some people are experiencing noises form Ripper. A good weld should last a lifetime in this application.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Sep 1999
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From: Los Angeles CA
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (benelliwang)
Well, I dropped out of Jr. High School, cause I was dumb…
The fact is, this mod requires less effort then Ripper and has lesser throws then the Ripper. The throws are less because it is shorter then Ripper. The effort is less because the mechanism is not as tight as Ripper. Maybe be because it does not have all those springs like the ripper?
The fact is, this mod requires less effort then Ripper and has lesser throws then the Ripper. The throws are less because it is shorter then Ripper. The effort is less because the mechanism is not as tight as Ripper. Maybe be because it does not have all those springs like the ripper?
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Race Director
Joined: Mar 2000
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From: Palm City Florida
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (turboo2u)
What about just hacking off a half-inch from the shaft of the shifter? I know it's basic but might be enough for some drivers. :confused:
Also how about slicing the (outer) upper part of the shaft off to reveal the entire inner shaft. Then you would not have to weld anything. Once the outer part is gone then re-thredad the top of the inner shaft. You could probably leave the rubber insulation on it to help quiet it down.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Vegas
Drifting
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From: Murphy Texas
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (HGlide82)
I got my modified shifter back in the car yesterday. This mod is awesome.
The throws are short, much more precise, and not anywhere close to the Ripper I used to run. I think the real differerence is removing the large, fluted part. It acts as a counter weight or dampener, which cancels out the "mechanical feel" of the shifts. Shift effort is great, and the position of the shift **** is perfect. :D
Here are a few pictures of the disassembled shifter, to the finished install.
**Note- I had previously cut threads off of the "stock" shifter, so the height difference is even greater than the picture illustrates**
[Modified by G Man, 7:52 AM 3/1/2002]
[Modified by G Man, 7:53 AM 3/1/2002]
The throws are short, much more precise, and not anywhere close to the Ripper I used to run. I think the real differerence is removing the large, fluted part. It acts as a counter weight or dampener, which cancels out the "mechanical feel" of the shifts. Shift effort is great, and the position of the shift **** is perfect. :D
Here are a few pictures of the disassembled shifter, to the finished install.
**Note- I had previously cut threads off of the "stock" shifter, so the height difference is even greater than the picture illustrates**
[Modified by G Man, 7:52 AM 3/1/2002]
[Modified by G Man, 7:53 AM 3/1/2002]
Le Mans Master
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From: Joplin MO
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (G Man)
G Man-
Wow that is one short shifter. So to understand you correctly, you like the feel better than that of the Ripper. I still have my stocker laying around from my Ripper install. I may have to play around a little bit with it. How are the precision of the shifts compared to that of the Ripper.
Thanks for the input. :cheers:
Wow that is one short shifter. So to understand you correctly, you like the feel better than that of the Ripper. I still have my stocker laying around from my Ripper install. I may have to play around a little bit with it. How are the precision of the shifts compared to that of the Ripper.
Thanks for the input. :cheers:
Race Director
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From: Palm City Florida
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (mrkln)
G Man-
Wow that is one short shifter. So to understand you correctly, you like the feel better than that of the Ripper. I still have my stocker laying around from my Ripper install. I may have to play around a little bit with it. How are the precision of the shifts compared to that of the Ripper.
Thanks for the input. :cheers:
Wow that is one short shifter. So to understand you correctly, you like the feel better than that of the Ripper. I still have my stocker laying around from my Ripper install. I may have to play around a little bit with it. How are the precision of the shifts compared to that of the Ripper.
Thanks for the input. :cheers:
My sentiments exactly!!!
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Burning Brakes
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From: Vegas
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (mrkln)
It is very precise and it has a very mechanical feel to it. My benchmark, the Miata, actually feels a little sloppy compare to this mod. But I still rate Miata a hair above because of it's light efforts result in lightning quick shifts. With this mod, I just can't miss 3rd gear no matter how I shift. :D The throws are shorter then Ripper and effort is less as well. I caught some flak from Rx7Rob because of statement above but I am not lying!!! :blueangel: You can see more pictures with this link: http://www.lvcm.com/wwang/
G Man-
Wow that is one short shifter. So to understand you correctly, you like the feel better than that of the Ripper. I still have my stocker laying around from my Ripper install. I may have to play around a little bit with it. How are the precision of the shifts compared to that of the Ripper.
Thanks for the input. :cheers:
Wow that is one short shifter. So to understand you correctly, you like the feel better than that of the Ripper. I still have my stocker laying around from my Ripper install. I may have to play around a little bit with it. How are the precision of the shifts compared to that of the Ripper.
Thanks for the input. :cheers:
Instructor
Joined: Oct 2000
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From: Laguna Niguel, CA
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (benelliwang)
This is what I have been looking for. How did you use the stock **** on yours. Did you have to replace the notch in the shaft or is this over kill. When do you start production on this. I will be customer 0000001.
David :cheers:
David :cheers:
Melting Slicks
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From: Round Rock, Texas Texas
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (G Man)
The new shifter looks bitchin'.
I've got my stocker layin' in the garage.
Guess I've found a project for this weekend.
Might have to get this done this weekend and then try it out at the track next week.
I've got my stocker layin' in the garage.
Guess I've found a project for this weekend.
Might have to get this done this weekend and then try it out at the track next week.