Super Short Throw Shifter
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (chuckster)
Still, the benchmark for crappy shifter: VW Jetta. The shifter feels like it's mounted in rubber cement.
Nope :nono:
Crappiest feeling shifter goes to..........Drum roll please.......
Porsche Boxster...Feels like a paint stick stuck in a gallon of latex wall trim.. :U
Nope :nono:
Crappiest feeling shifter goes to..........Drum roll please.......
Porsche Boxster...Feels like a paint stick stuck in a gallon of latex wall trim.. :U
Maybe its time for a poll on the worst shifter! :lol: :lol: :lol: :cheers:
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Burning Brakes
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From: Vegas
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (bigwave)
Bigwave: I used the 9/16 fine thread screw and welded to my shifter. The thread is exactly the same as the stock shifter so the stock shifter screws right in. I didn’t cut the notch and did not use the aluminum piece. What I did is that I used the dremmal tool to grind down the tip of the shifter until the stock shifter screws on just right. It’s on pretty tight and I have to use both hands to twist the **** off. If you want more security, I guess you can put a small drop of glue or locktite on the thread. Does locktite work with plastic? As far as selling this mod, it really didn’t occurred to me people would buy it because I posted the instruction of the web on how to do it you guys can really do it yourselves. I am an atypical Corvette lover who really should have bought a Minivan instead of a used C5. But I would do your shifter for a small fee and put that toward my “head & cam fund”. :lol: Anyone else want to contribute to my fund?
UR2SLW: I bought my spare shifter from the forum and it cost me $40.
UR2SLW: I bought my spare shifter from the forum and it cost me $40.
Drifting
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From: Murphy Texas
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (mrkln)
G Man-
Wow that is one short shifter. So to understand you correctly, you like the feel better than that of the Ripper. I still have my stocker laying around from my Ripper install. I may have to play around a little bit with it. How are the precision of the shifts compared to that of the Ripper.
Thanks for the input. :cheers:
Wow that is one short shifter. So to understand you correctly, you like the feel better than that of the Ripper. I still have my stocker laying around from my Ripper install. I may have to play around a little bit with it. How are the precision of the shifts compared to that of the Ripper.
Thanks for the input. :cheers:
This is what I have been looking for. How did you use the stock **** on yours. Did you have to replace the notch in the shaft or is this over kill. When do you start production on this. I will be customer 0000001.
Where can I order a stock shifter from and how much?
The new shifter looks bitchin'.
I've got my stocker layin' in the garage.
Guess I've found a project for this weekend.
Might have to get this done this weekend and then try it out at the track next week.
I've got my stocker layin' in the garage.
Guess I've found a project for this weekend.
Might have to get this done this weekend and then try it out at the track next week.
Let me know if you have any questions. ;)
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From: VENTURA Ca
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (G Man)
I was playing around today and put my Kirban back in. I've done it so many times it only takes about 15 minutes.I drove it over to the paint shop to get some more resin and mat for my hood project. Ya know what? I'm going to pull it back out and put my modified one back in. I actually like it better. If you made a Kirban or Ripper this short, you couldn't even move it. The resistance would be ridiculous. One of my regular customers is sending me his Mallet shifter to modify. He wants it shorter and the stick angled a little to the left. The Mallet has the same ratio as stock so the effort won't be too high if shortened. You guys should try it ,you'll be pleasantly surprised. :smash: I really need to figure out how to post pictures on here. You guys do a great job with them. I'm always doing little things like this that you would be interested in.
I have this really cool package shelf or divider in my car. I can put all kinds of stuff in it and they won't slide or roll away . It has 3 sections. I'd like to post a picture of it for you to see but I'm a computer idiot.
[Modified by Andy@AandACorvette, 4:25 PM 3/1/2002]
I have this really cool package shelf or divider in my car. I can put all kinds of stuff in it and they won't slide or roll away . It has 3 sections. I'd like to post a picture of it for you to see but I'm a computer idiot.
[Modified by Andy@AandACorvette, 4:25 PM 3/1/2002]
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From: Bonneville Salt Flats
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (turboo2u)
I absolutely hated the Ripper when I first put it on my new '01 at 100 miles. I added syn lube, etc. and it was worse than most trucks, imho. But, after about 5-6k miles, as someone had posted on the Forum, both the Ripper and the tranny apparently loosened up. It is MUCH better and actually shiftable into the 5-6 gate without thought and without too much effort.
For what it is worth, I think the stock shifter could be shortened and modified in ways suggested here and be perfectly acceptable. Were I doing it again, I'd not fight the Ripper and probably just rebuild the stock shifter to suit me and, I suspect, be happier quicker.
All the best.
By the way, if you need dampening to control rattle or vibration, go to an electric motor shop and get shaft retaining sleeves in steel, held with a set screw. Install under the boot with lock tight. I used four on my modified Ripper, but useful on any shifter. Besides, the top one will hold the boot tight against the bottom of the ****--like a real car... :lol:
[Modified by Avanti, 10:11 PM 3/1/2002]
For what it is worth, I think the stock shifter could be shortened and modified in ways suggested here and be perfectly acceptable. Were I doing it again, I'd not fight the Ripper and probably just rebuild the stock shifter to suit me and, I suspect, be happier quicker.
All the best.
By the way, if you need dampening to control rattle or vibration, go to an electric motor shop and get shaft retaining sleeves in steel, held with a set screw. Install under the boot with lock tight. I used four on my modified Ripper, but useful on any shifter. Besides, the top one will hold the boot tight against the bottom of the ****--like a real car... :lol:
[Modified by Avanti, 10:11 PM 3/1/2002]
Burning Brakes
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From: Cypress TX
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (benelliwang)
Benelliwang, thanks for the info. I'm going to check with some people here who have changed to a Ripper or Kirban and see if they want to sell their stock shifter.
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From: VENTURA Ca
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (Avanti)
What I did to dampen it was to wrap the whole assy. in Dynamat Extreme. I wrapped the shaft with a long piece cut almost like a piece of tape. I put enough on so that the shaft is thick enough at the bottom to hold the leather boot up. It's almost shaped like the original shifter. Tapered at the top and thick at the bottom.
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Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (turboo2u)
We just came out with a new shifter Breathless Performance Products 1997-2002 Corvette-Precision machined aluminum shifter provides you with the ultimate in speed shifting and comfort. Through years of testing we have designed a shifter to match your driving style. This shifter comes with either a straight or angled back shaft. The angle back shaft has 2 positions either 2" or 1" back. Also in the kit we include a wedge enabling you to position the shaft 5 degrees toward the drivers side or straight up.In the kit also comes another set of softer springs. Please specify shaft needed, either straight or angled back.
This was all geared to make your shifting easier.
http://www.breathlessperformance.com...ts/600-945.asp
Thanks
Ernie
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This was all geared to make your shifting easier.
http://www.breathlessperformance.com...ts/600-945.asp
Thanks
Ernie
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Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (benelliwang)
Where do you get a 9/16 bolt? Home Depot and Ace Hardware had none...
Anyway I started the modification and decided to take a slightly different approach. I figured there must be more shaft up inside that larger outer shaft. So I slit it with a dremel and found a complete shaft hiding inside. Also there is a cylinder filled with rubber which I think I'll try to keep. It will help dampen vibration also serve to keep the boot from sliding down. I think the shaft is already the perfect length (about 4") but It just needs to be threaded on the end. The an adapter is needed to mount the shift ****.
Do they make a male to female threaded adapter?
I kinda am looking for ideas here. What do you think? here are the pics...
[Modified by chuckster, 11:24 PM 3/2/2002]
[Modified by chuckster, 11:27 PM 3/2/2002]
Anyway I started the modification and decided to take a slightly different approach. I figured there must be more shaft up inside that larger outer shaft. So I slit it with a dremel and found a complete shaft hiding inside. Also there is a cylinder filled with rubber which I think I'll try to keep. It will help dampen vibration also serve to keep the boot from sliding down. I think the shaft is already the perfect length (about 4") but It just needs to be threaded on the end. The an adapter is needed to mount the shift ****.
Do they make a male to female threaded adapter?
I kinda am looking for ideas here. What do you think? here are the pics...
[Modified by chuckster, 11:24 PM 3/2/2002]
[Modified by chuckster, 11:27 PM 3/2/2002]
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From: VENTURA Ca
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (chuckster)
I started playing with mine again today as I waited for the fiberglass on my hood to cure. Ever see a Kirban shifter? It has a little stub that sticks up and you bolt the upper shaft to it. I have 4 different shafts for my Kirban of varying lengths and angles. I cut the shaft off so it's about 2 " long. I ground the sides flat and drilled and tapped two 5/16' holes in it. The I got a 16MM bolt ( that's the size thread of my new shifter ball) cut it ,ground it flat on the sides,and drilled it through. Now if I want to lengthen it , shorten it, or change the angle I can use one of the sticks from my Kirban. I have an allen wrench that is shortened so I can change shafts without removing the console. Just pop the leather boot, take out the 2 allen bolts and change the shaft. I can't leave anything alone! :cheers:
[Modified by Andy@AandACorvette, 9:51 AM 3/3/2002]
[Modified by Andy@AandACorvette, 9:51 AM 3/3/2002]
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Burning Brakes
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From: Vegas
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (chuckster)
Chuckster, I bought my 9/16 find thread bolt at Ace Hardware for $2.65 here in Las Vegas, I should think that other Ace stores would carry it.
I cut off my cylinder filled with rubber and there really is no vibration or noise to speak off. I kept the rubber boot to keep the dust out though.
Here are two images with the shifter in Neutral.
[Modified by benelliwang, 1:06 AM 3/3/2002]
I cut off my cylinder filled with rubber and there really is no vibration or noise to speak off. I kept the rubber boot to keep the dust out though.
Here are two images with the shifter in Neutral.
[Modified by benelliwang, 1:06 AM 3/3/2002]
Melting Slicks
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From: Panama City Beach FL
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (benelliwang)
Pretty interesting topic. This mod seems pretty easy to do and can save $ over buying the aftermarket shifters. Thanks for the info! :cheers:
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From: Palm City Florida
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (Andy@AandACorvette)
Andy I love that idea!!! Just like the Kirban. Grind the new bolt and shaft and tap it! Then I can try different lengths without taking the center console apart...
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From: Joplin MO
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (G Man)
I am still a little confused as to how you lowered the overall height of the shifter. Did you have to cut and then reweld under where the fluted part (top right in picture) was on the shifter? Just not sure what you had to weld back together (I think it is the stem on the left but I am unsure) but I was hoping that you could elaborate.
In other words, I am still trying to understand how you reused the stock stem in your modification.
Thanks. :cheers:
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From: VENTURA Ca
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (mrkln)
Yeah. The stem or shaft itself. I cut mine off below the rubber and welded a short bolt back on. In your pictures the rubber has been removed from the shaft. It looks like you could just shorten that one and get a 9/16 fine die and cut new threads.
Drifting
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From: Murphy Texas
Re: Super Short Throw Shifter (mrkln)
G Man,
I am still a little confused as to how you lowered the overall height of the shifter. Did you have to cut and then reweld under where the fluted part (top right in picture) was on the shifter? Just not sure what you had to weld back together (I think it is the stem on the left but I am unsure) but I was hoping that you could elaborate.
In other words, I am still trying to understand how you reused the stock stem in your modification.
Thanks. :cheers:
