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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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OMG!!!

Dude you should have paid the $500-750 had your car shipped to ECS and told Chris/Doug how much power you want. And here's something else to think about.Everybody keeps telling you not to go STS,but NO! You gonna have it your way.

Sorry! But a fool and his money......And I'd bet ya a steak dinner,It wont get down the 1/4 as quick as Dougs C5. For some reason you think people are just making this stuff up. You were hell bent on World Products....Your hell bent on STS...After everyone says TTIX. At this point its just really wait for the next thread,my oil return on the sts kit failed and burnt up some $hit!

Look @ the thread in the F/I section BIG DOGS OF THE C5 WORLD.

Not a one car has world products junk under the hood,and if it is its no more than 2.
Maybe you need to do something about that attention deficit you have. I've been running the STS kit for about three and a half years now. LONG before this engine build became even a passing thought in my head. And certain do hate to dash your opinion all to shreds, but I REALLY like the STS kit, and if I had it to do all over again, I would do exactly the same thing.

As for the return pump, yes, I had the original fail while under warranty. All it did was to blow oil out of the exhaust. But you DO know how a "return" pump works, now don't you....

As for World Products, for every one who said they had problems with them, there were three that said that preferred the Warhawk. So I just drew the short straw and lost with them. But at least LME stood by me, which probably a lot of other engine builders wouldn't have done.

And again, as for your opinions, you know what they say about opinions and *******s, I suppose.....
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Hate to say it but @ this point its funny! Sorry!
I'll make it a point to follow your build. I hope yours goes well......
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BTW, that polished rear cradle looks amazing. I'm way too lazy to do something like that, but applaud the effort. Next project for Joshua, the engine polishing expert.
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Great Job on the polishing, but damn bro you really must've been bored !!! Looks awesome, kind of like mirrors.

I was looking back and saw the old target date was 4/23. Considering this is the 26th and its en route tomorrow you aren't doing to bad with all things considered. You mentioned not getting her in the car until first week of May, I say as long as you are driving before the 4th of July you are golden. So many things have went wrong, but it will be worth it in the end.

To play devils advocate, if you could go back to day one on this whole thing what would you have done different? RHS block from the beginning, LSx block, so many options. Remember this is a what if scenario and you get to do it all over again. Just curious.

Can't wait to see what this motor will do !!!
Well, I just got back into town today after being away all week, and from the tracking info Bryan at LME sent me, the engine should be at XtremeMotorsports right now. So I need to get in touch with Chris over the weekend and see what the agenda is for this upcoming week. I expect I'll be over there nearly every day.

As for what I would do differently, well, that depends on what knowledge I have now that I could have crystal balled back then.

If I had known my car would have been tied up for 6 months, I wouldn't have done it at all. Period. I bought the car to drive, and there is now a gap of 6 months that I can never recover of that enjoyable passtime.

If I had known I would have gotten a lemon from World Products, of course I would have gone with RHS. And even that presumes that I will not have any problems with this new engine. A month from now I may be wishing I just had my money back and never had this desire in the first place.

Heck, is there really any option for a 427 that would have been guaranteed absolutely perfect?

I guess I'll just have to see what tune the fat lady is singing when this is all over with. At this point I can't even rule out the possibility that I might just put a FOR SALE sign on the darn thing and be done with it if there are any more headaches involved. I know some people say this is to be expected, but I certainly did NOT expect it. The original game plan had been to have everything at Chris's shop, bring my car in, maybe be a month for the install and iron out some bugs, and be on my way. Obviously things didn't go as planned.
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Wow! You sort of got your hackles up. Calling names and getting pissed just adds to your lack of credability. I didn't really care that much before, but since you've reacted so maturely, I no longer wish you good luck. You started this thread basically bragging about what a badass engine you were having built, and the result of your ignoring lots of well intentioned advice, is a disaster. Now THAT'S funny. Not in most cases, where the person is a decent chap, but when some checkbook mechanic publicly flops, and then still insists he knew what he was doing is priceless. You almost have enough material for a reality show.
"Credibility"? Who says I give a flip about my credibility? I simply stated the facts, and anyone who wants can either take them or leave them. And I'm the bad guy because I got tired of being heckled by some jerks who think they are the "be all and end all" of opinions on all things related to engine builds? Sorry, I had contrary opinions that I decided to weigh more heavily then theirs. Turned out that the luck of the draw was not to be the best choice for me, but obviously some people DO have good luck with World Products, otherwise certainly they wouldn't still be in business. Just turned out that I wasn't one of them and obviously some people are gleeful of that fact. And for that I get heckled by the peanut gallery? So yeah, I'm the bad guy as a result.....
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BTW, that polished rear cradle looks amazing. I'm way too lazy to do something like that, but applaud the effort. Next project for Joshua, the engine polishing expert.
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Maybe you need to do something about that attention deficit you have. I've been running the STS kit for about three and a half years now. LONG before this engine build became even a passing thought in my head. And certain do hate to dash your opinion all to shreds, but I REALLY like the STS kit, and if I had it to do all over again, I would do exactly the same thing.

As for the return pump, yes, I had the original fail while under warranty. All it did was to blow oil out of the exhaust. But you DO know how a "return" pump works, now don't you....

As for World Products, for every one who said they had problems with them, there were three that said that preferred the Warhawk. So I just drew the short straw and lost with them. But at least LME stood by me, which probably a lot of other engine builders wouldn't have done.

And again, as for your opinions, you know what they say about opinions and *******s, I suppose.....
Not gonna get into it with ya.But you ran a STS on a stock LS6 dont you think a tall deck 427 is a lil different.That engine wont know those little turbos are hooked up.But you know it all.As far as my build.

I'm gonna cheat! LSX 454 crate from GM,and slap a YSI or NOVI or F1 on it. Clean cut and straight to the point.With enuff power/TQ to pull the moon form the sky!

And the reason for this route...Everything will have a great warranty! And you spare yourself the headache you went through.And turn around is quick. You use the parts off the old block to keep cost down.You can pick up a few bucks for the old block and heads and other parts. With all parts at the shop,my build has a turn around of a week!
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Not gonna get into it with ya.But you ran a STS on a stock LS6 dont you think a tall deck 427 is a lil different.That engine wont know those little turbos are hooked up.But you know it all.As far as my build.
Seems to me you already decided to "get into it" with me. "Tall deck 427"? I see you're still not paying close attention here. But otherwise it appears to me that YOU are the one claiming to be the know it all here. I'm just stating what I am trying. YOU are the one saying that you know it won't work.

Originally Posted by 94-vette
I'm gonna cheat! LSX 454 crate from GM,and slap a YSI or NOVI or F1 on it. Clean cut and straight to the point.With enuff power/TQ to pull the moon form the sky!

And the reason for this route...Everything will have a great warranty! And you spare yourself the headache you went through.And turn around is quick. You use the parts off the old block to keep cost down.You can pick up a few bucks for the old block and heads and other parts. With all parts at the shop,my build has a turn around of a week!
So what are you going to do about all that additional WEIGHT on the front end? So how much extra weight you going to have up there afterwards? 200+ pounds with that iron block, the SC and intercooler? Do you think your car might handle like a snow plow afterwards? I hope when you hit the brakes hard the front bumper doesn't smack the pavement.

In any event, the new engine showed up at XtremeMotorsports on Friday. I'll be stopping out there on Monday to take pics and get an itinerary of the build being continued after the long pause (thanks to World Products). I guess we'll just have to see what happens.
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Decided to start a new thread since the new engine with RHS block and LXR heads is now in. -> http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...lxr-heads.html
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wow, this thread sounds exactly like the other one that was locked.
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wow, this thread sounds exactly like the other one that was locked.
shame on you....
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I never read where all this had started
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I never read where all this had started
There is another thread older than this one, which is the possible build discussion.
Old Aug 8, 2012 | 10:07 PM
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wow, this thread sounds exactly like the other one that was locked.
And so will this one.

I wouldn't suggest opening any more old threads.




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