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I'm a newbie and my 99 is reading 129PSI at idle. Cars running fine. I'm assuming the oil pressure sending unit has gone out. How on earth do I replace it providing thats all it is? Any pics would be great. Thanks in advance for any help!
Make sure you get a brass sending unit not the aluminums. You can get one from advance. intake manifold has to be taken off but, there are alternate ways. Do a search on here and choose which would be the best route for you. If you choose to take off the intake manifold thats what i would recomend you can clean out the all that gunk under there and do your knock sensors too. I think there is also a knock sensor mod you can do too. Good luck
I just replaced mine yesterday. I opted for the cutting the hole in the cowl method. I know some of you don't like this method but it worked well for me. I had no problem and got it sealed up nicely with aluminum tape under the hole, replaced the cut out and sealed it with silicone before duct taping the top. One thing I did was before sticking the duct tape I sprayed a fine coat of spray adhesive to help the tape adhere better. Just a thought. Nice to have the gauge back. And by the way I was able to get the brass one at Advance auto.
They want $440 to replace the unit with the same ****y unit...
Either relocate the unit...buy the right one, Brass, and start taking the fuel rails off and intake manifold off..or cut the whole in the cowl.
There are alot of good "how tos" on this topic on the forum.
The other option is...do nothing.
One guy said he drove around for 8 years without the sensor..
One of the primary failures of the sender is oil leaking through the internals to and gets into the electronic portion of the sender. Oil then will start leaking out of the connector and onto the engine. You don't need a fire, so fix it sooner than later. As stated several times, don't waste your time and money on an alluminum one, rather, brass only.
i just got the same problem this morning with my 2002, reading is 130 psi. Anyone who could post a picture showing the location of the SENDER in an 02 will be greatly appreciated.
....picture will help me decide where to cut or make a hole if i opt to "cutting the COWL(?)".
will definitely not resort to cowl cutting, just bear the brunt of paying the labor of relocating it... but have to get this product first, check this link...
I see a lot of people recommend the brass sending unit. What has the metal the unit is made out of got to do with it? These are electronic sending units. Wouldn't the electronics have more to do with a good verses a bad unit compared to what metal it is made out of?
I see a lot of people recommend the brass sending unit. What has the metal the unit is made out of got to do with it? These are electronic sending units. Wouldn't the electronics have more to do with a good verses a bad unit compared to what metal it is made out of?
For one thing, aluminum will conduct more heat to the sensitive electronics than brass does. Brass is also denser, and may help to absorb more vibration.
The proven fact is that the brass sensors DO last longer, for whatever the reason is.
For one thing, aluminum will conduct more heat to the sensitive electronics than brass does. Brass is also denser, and may help to absorb more vibration.
The proven fact is that the brass sensors DO last longer, for whatever the reason is.
Mounting an accelerometer to a brass verses an aluminum sensor would show it has the same forces being applied in spectral content and amplitude. What the bigger mass (engine block) is doing will determine what the littler mass (pressure transducer) will be exposed to. Nether metal offer any significant damping allowing ether to “absorb more vibration”. As far as heat and conductivity, this is a wash as both would reach saturation and would end up at the same temperature as the engine block that it is connected to. If anything, the aluminum would dissipate heat faster than the brass counter part.
So, all I'm asking is where is this “proven fact”. Can you point me to a source of this data?
I could believe that the aluminum unit might be more likely to be damaged during installation than the brass from over torquing, but I don't buy the material choice has anything to do with the failure because of the environment the sensor is exposed.
i just got the same problem this morning with my 2002, reading is 130 psi. Anyone who could post a picture showing the location of the SENDER in an 02 will be greatly appreciated.
....picture will help me decide where to cut or make a hole if i opt to "cutting the COWL(?)".
Look on page 4 of the sticky at the top of page titled Oil sender relocate. There is a step by step there. If you cut, make sure the hole is big enough to access it.
Mounting an accelerometer to a brass verses an aluminum sensor would show it has the same forces being applied in spectral content and amplitude.
So, all I'm asking is where is this “proven fact”. Can you point me to a source of this data?
I don't have an accelerometer attached to my oil pressure sensor, but I do know that it is the original BRASS sensor installed on my engine in 2001. This I verified when I removed my intake manifold, to replace the Bank 2 A.I.R. check valve, last winter.
An original brass sensor still working, (and also not leaking) after nearly nine years of service, is all the proof that I'll ever need Eric.
An original brass sensor still working, (and also not leaking) after nearly nine years of service, is all the proof that I'll ever need Eric.
But the originals do fail, and often. Otherwise this would not be such a popular topic, so popular it rates a sticky at the top of the page. Also, I don't see how one sensor of a certain material not failing means another certainly will. Your logic escapes me.
But the originals do fail, and often. Your logic escapes me.
The logic is that the vast majority of original sensors that have failed, and also the replacement GM sensors that have failed early, are the aluminum ones.
The logic is that the vast majority of original sensors that have failed, and also the replacement GM sensors that have failed early, are the aluminum ones.
My original was brass. It failed. Actually I'm not sure that any originals were aluminum. Do you have any statistics to support your assertion that the vast majority of sensors that have failed were aluminum?
I'm not sure that any originals were aluminum. Do you have any statistics to support your assertion that the vast majority of sensors that have failed were aluminum?
There have been many Forum discussions on this topic.
Here's one that you can review, and then draw your own conclusions.
Thanks for providing that link as it pretty much proves my point. He replaced his original BRASS sensor with an aluminum one which also failed. Also he mentioned torquing the sensor but did not mention if he used the proper tool. So, one brass failure and one aluminum failure. Doesn't sound like it makes much difference what they are made of.
From his post "The first time I replaced it 3 mo's ago, I noted my old original sensor was made of heavy brass."