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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wcsinx
Because I'm a cheapskate, I went with Sumitomo HTRZ IIs. They're $80 front and $110 rear at TireRack. I have been very pleased with these tires. They were a little noisy at first, but after about 300 miles that went away. Grip is excellent ... no tread squirm at all even right after I put them on. The front's treadwear rating is stupid low though at 220, but hey at $80 a pop I can wear out 2 or 3 of these for the price of an F1.
I had those on my rear, went with 18" wheels all around and they ended up on the fronts.They are too big and I have to turn off my TC but they will not wear out. I love the slick sidewall too. I fixen to replace the rears , Kumos now and might try them again! I go through the backs in a year or so, not sure why .
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Boulty1961
I am happy with Kuhmos. Factory tire size on mine.
If you are not going to have runflats any longer then may I suggest one of these kits or one like it.
http://www.slime.com/product/281/Pow...%2370004).html


Definitely bazooka the run-farces. However, I also heard that the remote tire pressure sensors could be seriously damaged by using a 'slime' type product. Any one with any experiences know ??
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wcdaniel


Definitely bazooka the run-farces. However, I also heard that the remote tire pressure sensors could be seriously damaged by using a 'slime' type product. Any one with any experiences know ??
I have used the slime product on many tires (tractor, bike, equipment of all kinds). It is water base and does wash off easy.
I have not used it on my car at this point. If and when I do have a flat, I will use it and replace the TPM if it no longer works. If the TPM is damaged by the slime, it would be better than being stuck on the side of the road, IMHO.
This is the Slime Web Site statement about the effects of the product on TPMS:
http://www.slime.com/faq.html
My vehicle has a TPMS device; can I use SLiME?
TPMS STATEMENT OF COMPATIBILITY
As leaders in the tire care and repair industry, Accessories Marketing, Incorporated (AMI), the manufacturers of SLiME Tire Sealant wish to address the mandate set forth in the Transportation Recall Enhancement, Accountability and Documentation (TREAD) Act, passed in the fall of 2000. In response to this mandate, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) established the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard that requires the installation of Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS) to all vehicles by September 1, 2007.

From our findings, and after significant dialog with the leading manufacturers of TPMS devices, SLiME Tire Sealant will not damage TPMS devices. We understand TPMS manufacturers have conducted extensive testing to ensure their sensors remain operational after exposure to any chemical fluids that might come into contact with the sensors. This includes after market products, such as SLiME Tire Sealant. AMI has also conducted independent testing, which supports and verifies SLiME Tire Sealant’s compatibility with TPMS devices.

Currently, there are two types of TPMS devices available: Direct and Indirect. SLiME Tire Sealant’s TPMS formulation is compatible with all TPMS systems. However, it is important to note that once installed, Slime Tire Sealant may come in contact with the sensor in a way that renders the sensor TEMPORARILY inoperable until it is properly cleaned, inspected and re-installed by a tire care professional.

Because SLiME is a water soluble flat repair treatment, it is easily removed from the tire with water. At the time the affected tire is inspected by a tire care professional, they should clean the sealant from the tire, prepare the area and repair with a Rubber Manufacturer’s Association (RMA) approved patch/plug. The TPMS device should also be cleaned off with water to remove any sealant which may have come into contact with the device. Do not use any fine objects to ream and clean the small pressure sensor opening as it may damage the electronics. After the repaired tire is replaced and inflated the TPMS system will resume operating as normal.

Please note that SLiME is recommended as a REPAIR for all Over the Road (OTR) applications.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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Settles that question, huh ??
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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I switched mine to Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS. Love em. I've got them up for sale now in the f/s section cause I bought some CCW's and they won't fit
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Since I am not the richest guy in the world, since we cannot 'rotate' tires anymore and since my wife will probably soil her panties and throw them at me, but is it plasuible to keep my Michelin A/S Run-Farces on the front and go with something different on the back?? The reason I ask this is because the fronts have about 90% of good tread remaining.

Thoughts ??
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wcdaniel
Since I am not the richest guy in the world, since we cannot 'rotate' tires anymore and since my wife will probably soil her panties and throw them at me, but is it plasuible to keep my Michelin A/S Run-Farces on the front and go with something different on the back?? The reason I ask this is because the fronts have about 90% of good tread remaining.

Thoughts ??
NO – You should NOT mix difference run flats. (And you most certainly cannot mix run flats and non-run flats on the same car)

Even with run-flats, sidewall stiffness between brands varies. Handling problems will manifest themselves to varying degrees, depending upon the differences in sidewall stiffness.

Mixing different tires can be very dangerous.

Better safe than sorry – keep the tires the same. If you are replacing only one axle set you should purchase the same tires that are on the other axle.

Be safe. I was in the same boat as you last month. Front run-flats very good, rear tires worn out completely.

I ditched the run-flats for four all season tires. I now carry a pump, tire sealer/inflator, tire repair kit, and small scissors jack.

MUCH better ride and road grip with the non-run flats.

Visted Florida and Bowling Green on the way home. The Museum expansion turned out very well. Put 3,000 miles on the 2000 in 10-days!


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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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I had run flats on the front , non on back , different brands, for about a year with no problems. I would not mix side to side but front to back I dont think is that big of a deal. I have the Sumitomo and Kuhmos in back now , does not bother me at all. My 02
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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I had to use the SLIME KIT to get me home from Albuquerque NM to Dexter NM (about 220 miles)....Without it, I would have been stranded in BFE without assistance, and when assistance arrived, the bill would have been MORE than a new set of tires!....I read the SLIME fine print, and figured I'd file a claim if my TPMS sensors were damaged....I filled up the tire and off I went!....

That was over a year ago, and my tire pressure monitoring system works fine, no damage!....

SLIME SAVED MY CAN!....


Originally Posted by wcsinx
Because I'm a cheapskate, I went with Sumitomo HTRZ IIs. They're $80 front and $110 rear at TireRack. I have been very pleased with these tires. They were a little noisy at first, but after about 300 miles that went away. Grip is excellent ... no tread squirm at all even right after I put them on. The front's treadwear rating is stupid low though at 220, but hey at $80 a pop I can wear out 2 or 3 of these for the price of an F1.
Man o man, I wish I had the same luck with the Sumitomo's I put on my vette....I bought mine for the same reasons above, but now I'm just not so sure....I bought the EXACT spec tires as you, but they just don't run well...

Grip, unfortunately I can spin these like crazy!....they even break loose in 2nd, which the F1's never did...Although, my treadwear seems good, compared to the F1's they replaced....

Bottom line, for the price you pay, they are certainly a value! (heck, maybe I got a bad set?)

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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by timemender
NO – You should NOT mix difference run flats. (And you most certainly cannot mix run flats and non-run flats on the same car)

Even with run-flats, sidewall stiffness between brands varies. Handling problems will manifest themselves to varying degrees, depending upon the differences in sidewall stiffness.

Mixing different tires can be very dangerous.

Better safe than sorry – keep the tires the same. If you are replacing only one axle set you should purchase the same tires that are on the other axle.

Be safe. I was in the same boat as you last month. Front run-flats very good, rear tires worn out completely.

I ditched the run-flats for four all season tires. I now carry a pump, tire sealer/inflator, tire repair kit, and small scissors jack.

MUCH better ride and road grip with the non-run flats.

Visted Florida and Bowling Green on the way home. The Museum expansion turned out very well. Put 3,000 miles on the 2000 in 10-days!


have you ever driven on runflats up front with non's out back? or are you just taking a stand against something you know nothing about, just because you have a feeling? (dont feel bad, the forums are full of that kind of thinking) thats called intuition, and it isnt always accurate or correct.

sure it sounds like a bad idea. i totally agree.

i am currently broke, and in the process of saving for new fronts.. still have the runflats up front, gsd3's in the rear.

my car handles FINE.

i can take inner city 90 degree turns, on 2 lane roads, stay in my lane at 30mph easy. there is a clover leaf i like to run to practice driving and enjoy my car. low traffic. before the new rears, the whole car would slide, with a little oversteer. now, the front pushes a hair, but its pretty balanced (understeer is new to me coming from stangs ). not saying its great handling or anything, but its not going to kill me from being remarkably unsafe either. perhaps surprisingly. when the front starts pushing.. ease the throttle and vwahlah you have control of the car again.

just to clarify - real world experience with something i dont feel is the best idea, but works better than i expected... well good enough to get me through till after christmas.

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