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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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I got 12 quarts of ATF and bought it to jiffy lube they said they put all 12 quarts in. (I doubt that for some odd reason) I noticed while running through the gears or at high rpms it seems to slip now. It will still pop into gear though but if im at 5,000rpms in first thats when i put it into second and it might bounce off the limiter before getting into gear.

Car had 87k miles on it and It is safe to assume it had the stock ATF in it.

This is what I had them put in it.

http://www.valvoline.com/products/co...ssion-fluid/37
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I got 12 quarts of ATF and bought it to jiffy lube they said they put all 12 quarts in. (I doubt that for some odd reason) I noticed while running through the gears or at high rpms it seems to slip now. It will still pop into gear though but if im at 5,000rpms in first thats when i put it into second and it might bounce off the limiter before getting into gear.

Car had 87k miles on it and It is safe to assume it had the stock ATF in it.

This is what I had them put in it.

http://www.valvoline.com/products/co...ssion-fluid/37
If your transmission was overhauled i.e bone dry, the capacity would only by 10.8 quarts. If you drove the car to Jiffy Lube to have the trans drained and refilled, it would only take 5 quarts.

How did you determine that 12 quarts was required?
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 12:04 PM
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Maybe they put power steering fluid in it instead (kept your ATF). Some people think power steering fluid and automatic transmission fluid is all the same stuff anyway...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...-steering.html

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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hotwheels57
Maybe they put power steering fluid in it instead. Some people think power steering fluid and automatic transmission fluid is all the same stuff anyway...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...-steering.html
You had to go there.....shame on you..
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
If your transmission was overhauled i.e bone dry, the capacity would only by 10.8 quarts. If you drove the car to Jiffy Lube to have the trans drained and refilled, it would only take 5 quarts.


[/QUOTE]How did you determine that 12 quarts was required?[/QUOTE]

I am curious about that too! Either way...12 quarts doesn't add up! Another ?...how bout a filter kit? Did they just drain and fill?
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cgilbert23

How did you determine that 12 quarts was required?[/QUOTE]

I am curious about that too! Either way...12 quarts doesn't add up! Another ?...how bout a filter kit? Did they just drain and fill?[/QUOTE]

They said they used 12 quarts flushing the system out and refilling it.

I don't know if it is slipping or if i'm not use to it being so smooth.
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Originally Posted by Cpl Yanni
They said they used 12 quarts flushing the system out and refilling it.

I don't know if it is slipping or if i'm not use to it being so smooth.
You had them flush it....? Sounds like you need to get the facts together.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
I am curious about that too! Either way...12 quarts doesn't add up! Another ?...how bout a filter kit? Did they just drain and fill?
They said they used 12 quarts flushing the system out and refilling it.

I don't know if it is slipping or if i'm not use to it being so smooth.[/QUOTE]

You had them flush it....? Sounds like you need to get the facts together.[/QUOTE]

They changed the filter and they flushed the system and put a new seal on the pan. Thats what I got out of it.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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Default new GM recommendation....for Auto transmissions

I put the Valvoline DEXRON VI in my car...did it myself. The car shifts much better and handles High Temps better. Since Dexron III is no longer liscensed I don't really trust DEX III. But that doesn't mean what you put in was wrong. I just like to use what meets the newer/better standard. DEXRON VI is for Automatics only...My car has 180000 + miles.
http://www.corvettemechanic.com/foru...read.php?t=214

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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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I am in the same situation as you are...my car has 85K and from what I could find out about the car, the original atf is still in it. I have made calls to LG Motorsports and Corvettes of Dallas asking for recomendations about having the system flushed or just dropping the pan, changing filters and refilling. After tons of reading and the conversations with those guys, everthing points towards not flushing the system. I hope you didn't hurt anything! Keep us posted on how the tranny is doing... Good Luck!!
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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I dropped the pan on mine...changed Pan gasket, filter, filter seal (tough)...Used a rented tool (Blind Hole puller) from Autozone to get that out. Because the car was just on ramps I had to buy a large bolt and washer to use for the slide on the blind hole puller but I finally got it out. Some come right out on my research....But if you have one that doesn't, get ready for a fight. I drained the fluid dropped the pan replaced the filter refilled. I did it again about a month later....refilled. I intend to do it about once a year now....No problems. Used the new DEXRON VI....180000 + miles before this was done......DEXRON VI made a big change in smoothness temps etc. You had better do the research though...I seem to remember that I had to have the car running and at a specific temperature when refilling. I followed the procedure in the Shop manual

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Originally Posted by cgilbert23
I am in the same situation as you are...my car has 85K and from what I could find out about the car, the original atf is still in it. I have made calls to LG Motorsports and Corvettes of Dallas asking for recomendations about having the system flushed or just dropping the pan, changing filters and refilling. After tons of reading and the conversations with those guys, everthing points towards not flushing the system. I hope you didn't hurt anything! Keep us posted on how the tranny is doing... Good Luck!!
by not flushing the system do you mean keep the orginal fluid in as long as all is working well? my 02 has 55k on the orginal fluid (whatever that is) but the local chevy dealer wants $250 to flush it and said it should be done every 30k. geeezzzz...dont know what to think
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Ever consider looking in the owners manual to see what it recommends???
yup..it says 100k but then again it also says DEX 3, which I know is not right. I dont want to fork out that much cash just because a service manager at the local chevy dealer says it should be done; but on the other an ounce of prevention may apply. I just changed out the radiator coolant and rear diff and its running great. I dont race it at the track, but I do get on the gas when a hopped up civic or evo screws with me...
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Why oh why would you take your vette to Jiffy Lub? Seriously, don't do that! I wouldn't take my lawnmower to Jiffy Lub based on the experience I've had with them. Please keep in mind that the people working there are not certified mechanics or even close to being mechanically inclined.

Thank goodness that you at least brought your own transmission fluid. Who knows what they would've put in.

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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Yea, I guess you would know more than GM. After all they only designed and built it. Why should they know what it takes to maintain it.

But then if you know more than GM, why are you asking here?

I never proclaimed to know more than GM...if I was being advised by a tech at the plant in Bowling Green, I wud follow his recomendation; however, the service manual is 6 years old. By your reasoning, the manual says to use DEX 3 so I guess you would that instead of DEX VI because GM knows best and built the car, right? It nice to know there are still people out there like you that will believe anything they read is still current.. I prefer to get it from those who have experienced it first hand, like the good folks on this site.

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I didn't think it was possible to overfill the transmission. The instructions are to keep pouring it in until it overflows the fill hole. It is possible they didn't fill it enough which can present as the car having to rev higher and, in some cases, shift harder.

I don't remember the exact procedure but I thought you had to actually move the gear shift into and out of reverse also to make sure it gets everywhere.
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Originally Posted by DavidManu
I never proclaimed to know more than GM...if I was being advised by a tech at the plant in Bowling Green, I wud follow his recomendation; however, the service manual is 6 years old. By your reasoning, the manual says to use DEX 3 so I guess you would that instead of DEX VI because GM knows best and built the car, right? It nice to know there are still people out there like you that will believe anything they read is still current.. I prefer to get it from those who have experienced it first hand, like the good folks on this site.
so how many quarts of trans fluid does it take when drop pan change filter and fill
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so how many quarts of trans fluid does it take when drop pan change filter and fill
Five.
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Originally Posted by DavidManu
I never proclaimed to know more than GM...if I was being advised by a tech at the plant in Bowling Green, I wud follow his recomendation; however, the service manual is 6 years old. By your reasoning, the manual says to use DEX 3 so I guess you would that instead of DEX VI because GM knows best and built the car, right? It nice to know there are still people out there like you that will believe anything they read is still current.. I prefer to get it from those who have experienced it first hand, like the good folks on this site.
Priceless.......you don't have a f*#king clue........
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
Five.
i just did mine yesterday i captured all the fluid i drained out dropped pan installed new filter and and filled as instruted ran thru gears quick test drive rechecked level i drained out 4.5qts and filled with 4.5qts

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